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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25551: Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:13:19 PM

You know it's bad when people prefer a character gone rather than Marvel ruining them. [lol]

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#25552: Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:26:20 PM

Hey, with Venom being a good guy and Doc Ock back in his original body, the position of "Evil Spider-Man" is currently vacant. I say let Ben slide a little lower.

Reminds me of Chris Hastings' joke that editors don't like when he calls Venom "Wa-Spider-Man-io", since Ben is Luigi, Venom is Wario, and Carnage is Waluigi to Peter's Mario.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25553: Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:27:39 PM

I mean if Ben was at least being evil in a way that fits his character that would make things better but here he's doing demonic shit.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#25554: Jan 24th 2023 at 1:28:06 AM

I don't entirely understand what's happening in the current Spider-Gwen Spider-Verse Unimited arc - possibly it's introducing the Bodega Bandit-verse, given the alternate versions interacting, but I'm enjoying it anyway.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25555: Jan 24th 2023 at 5:17:37 AM

The New Justice Team!

King Chasm has all the powers of a king, plus all the powers of Spider-Man, also he's a double!

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25556: Jan 24th 2023 at 5:19:04 AM

[up][up][up][up] Do we even need evil Spider-Man?

Where's Doppelganger when you need him? [lol]

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#25557: Jan 24th 2023 at 5:25:24 AM

I'm reasonably certain there has never been a Spider-Man villain named Namredips, so maybe he can be the new evil Spider-Man.

Actually, wait, would it be Nam-Redips? Or would his evilness manifest in lacking the hyphen?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25558: Jan 24th 2023 at 5:25:55 AM

It's the littlest pause between Spider and Man. [lol]

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#25559: Jan 24th 2023 at 10:05:45 AM

Well, Peter Palmer was the Spiderman, so maybe instead of no hypen, we go for a simple space? Nam Redips?

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knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#25560: Jan 25th 2023 at 12:26:55 PM

I'm honestly starring to wonder if Marvel is just trolling at this point....

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#25561: Jan 25th 2023 at 1:16:25 PM

What? Was Ben too impatient for Maddy to shout "Magic Wand...MAKE MY MONSTER...GROW!"

Snailfish Silver Shamrock's Halloween three from Santa Mira, California Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Silver Shamrock's Halloween three
#25562: Jan 25th 2023 at 3:31:02 PM

Does anyone else feel that out of all Spidey's rogues, Mac Gargan the Scorpion really tends to get the short end of the stick in modern adaptations?

In Spectacular Spiderman he doesn't even get a pre-Scorpion cameo. Jackal, Hydro Man, Hobgoblin, Sin-Eater and Carnage at least popped up as their pre-supervillain selves. Mac gets namedropped by Osborn once.

In Ultimate Spiderman the Scorpion isn't even Mac, just a rando rival to Iron Fist.

In Spider Man 2017 Scorpion is a random super-thug with no character.

Spiderman Homecoming does have Gargan show up, but his Scorpion alter ego is only teased at and still not followed up on, like the Leader in the 2008 Hulk movie.

The closest we've got to a descent animated Scorpion is Into The Spiderverse, for what little screentime he's got. I kinda hope someone makes a spin-off comic or something so we can get more backstory to Mexican cyborg Mac.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25563: Jan 25th 2023 at 4:00:35 PM

ITSV Scorpion is still a random thug - I'd say Spider-man TAS did the best Scorpion, having Gargan appear even giving him a small role to develop him prior to his transformation. He even beats Spider-man in his first appearance, and would have in their second fight without Jameson's help.

They also keep Jameson being the one behind his transformation, and Scorpion wanting revenge to him.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25564: Jan 25th 2023 at 4:51:12 PM

[up]

Yeah. Spiderman TAS Scorpion was a pretty good Scorpion but that's because he was pretty close to his classic self.

It's actually been a while since we've seen his proper origin or his hatred of Jameson in animation. As pointed out, the last few Spidey series either never used him, never got to him, or changed him completely.

And now a thought: Has Peter ever fought the Brotherhood of Mutants?

It just popped into my head since he's fought damn near everybody at some point.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25565: Jan 25th 2023 at 4:56:17 PM

Not to my knowledge.

Heck, how many times has Spider-Man fought Magneto?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25566: Jan 25th 2023 at 5:00:25 PM

I only know of one time...

When he faced off against Dr. Magneto....

I mean, when they met during Acts of Vengeance.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25567: Jan 25th 2023 at 5:01:22 PM

Well Ultimate Peter fought Magneto to protect Liz once.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25568: Jan 25th 2023 at 5:07:33 PM

Normally Spidey is too busy beating up the X-men to go after the Brotherhood.

But he fought them in Darkhawk 19 & 20, as a crossover with whoever the hell Darkhawk is. Apparently he also fought them alongside X-Force, but the only crossover I can find with Spidey and X-Force is against Juggernaut alone

Spidey also fights them in Renew Your Vows (the series, when he visits the X-men) and the old Amazing Friends cartoon.

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#25569: Jan 25th 2023 at 5:17:11 PM

I sorta liked how Marvel Knights Spider-Man had Gargan kidnap Aunt May on Osborn's orders, and then when he and Peter meet in regular clothes in the city to discuss terms, Peter doesn't even recognize Gargan by face or voice, and Gargan laments what an afterthought villain he's become. And then he became the new Venom, of course.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25570: Jan 25th 2023 at 6:11:00 PM

Darkhawk is this guy who bodyswaps with a Shi’ar walking robotic warcrime thanks to a magic gem he found that fused to him

He was slightly popular for a short while and since has bounced between spurts of activity whenever anyone remembers him but mostly in less than complimentary ways

Like being put in Avengers Arena only to get taken out to give someone else a powerup when they found the magic gem

Edited by Bocaj on Jan 25th 2023 at 9:24:01 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#25571: Jan 25th 2023 at 6:12:46 PM

As I recall he was an attempt at creating a new Spider-Man in the 90s alongside a batch of new characters who got their own ongoings for a while like Sleepwalker

Shame he has a pretty cool costume

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 25th 2023 at 6:13:10 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25572: Jan 25th 2023 at 6:15:52 PM

I believe him, Nova, and Speedball (the latter two, both joining the New Warriors, who've worked with Peter multiple times, and the former, who I think was a reserve member later on) was all attempts at a new Spider-Man.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25573: Jan 25th 2023 at 6:24:51 PM

Marvel kind of has a Pikachu situation going on with Spider-Man. A lot of attempts to recapture the lightning in the bottle that fall flat. And its the one they don't expect to be super popular that is.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#25574: Jan 25th 2023 at 6:26:17 PM

Nova at least went on to find later popularity after his retool into a full cosmic hero

Speedball and Darkhawk aren't so lucky

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25575: Jan 25th 2023 at 6:28:37 PM

Speedball, I think, was reasonably popular before Civil War

After that... He has his appearances but he has his dork age hanging over him in a heavy way. Doesn't help that New Warriors is also hurting for appearances and that's where he's likeliest to appear.

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