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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25401: Jan 10th 2023 at 3:27:13 PM

So Scans Daily has issues 229 and 230 of the first volume, where Peter ecounters The Juggernaut for the first time.

https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/9927457.html#cutid1

Wow. Peter truly had no idea did he? Like, he'd apparently never even heard of the Juggernaut before, which is surprising since he's a classic X-Men foe.

But wow, he really got lucky with how he managed to get the Juggernaut to fall into Cement (which isn't shown in the post regretfully).

I kinda knew he was outmatched, but I never realized how much. He was completely out of his league.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#25402: Jan 11th 2023 at 7:42:36 AM

Wow. Peter truly had no idea did he? Like, he'd apparently never even heard of the Juggernaut before, which is surprising since he's a classic X-Men foe.

Did Juggernaut have many appearances before this? Even then, him being largely a villain for the X-Men (who tend to be rather isolated) might be why Spider-Man was unfamiliar with him.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25403: Jan 11th 2023 at 7:45:22 AM

I mean, this had to have taken place in the 70's or 80's, so yeah. Juggie had to have appeared in a lot of X-Men comics at this time, and not every battle could have taken place offscreen.

So for Peter to have no clue who he is seems odd.

Him not fully grasping how Unstoppable Juggernaut is Not Hyperbole, I can buy, but never hearing of the Juggernaut at all? That's hard to buy.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#25404: Jan 11th 2023 at 10:17:09 AM

Well, how many supervillains are there in the Marvel Universe? Who can keep track of them all?

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#25405: Jan 11th 2023 at 10:35:45 AM

[up] I mean, there are people who do, including some heroes. But that's generally a character point with them, and they're usually the sort of people who prepare a plan for every possible threat and scenario (Cyclops, Black Panther etc.)

Spidey's never really been that person.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25406: Jan 11th 2023 at 2:11:45 PM

Spider-Man's usually been a wing it type of guy in those days.

Like by the end of the day, he's just a average dude with powers trying to do the right thing and doesn't have the same resources as other heroes.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#25407: Jan 11th 2023 at 3:23:12 PM

The weirdest thing about Dark Web to me is that the premise of the event is treated seriously in every other book but the main title. Cantwell is writing this somber reflection piece over in Gold Goblin while the main book has Spidey fighting a demon sinister six and is super farcical.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25408: Jan 12th 2023 at 4:45:28 AM

Meantime, in Mary Jane/Black Cat#2 there are some hints about the mystery surrounding MJ and the kids, with Felicia revealing that MJ had been missing for those six months, and MJ kind of coyly reacting with "yeah....six months..." which alludes to the possibility the passage of time for her was entirely different

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25409: Jan 12th 2023 at 5:44:04 AM

[up] That just raises further questions!

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25410: Jan 12th 2023 at 10:20:06 AM

Slott is hyping up the conclusion of his current Spider-Verse storyline in April too, saying it is 'huge' and changes both Spider-Man's world and the Marvel universe

Maybe it means he keeps Peter Palmer around and he becomes the star of the book? The hyphen in the title being somewhat ironic since he doesn't use it.

MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#25411: Jan 12th 2023 at 1:08:42 PM

[up][up][up]/[up][up] Doesn't this also imply Peter was also away for more than six months?

I've seen people speculate that this could be a way to have the toddlers be her biological kids even though it's only been six months.

Edited by MetaSkipper on Jan 12th 2023 at 4:08:53 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25412: Jan 12th 2023 at 2:28:02 PM

God. We JUST got rid of the last set of artificially aged Spider love interest children. I hope we don’t have to go back to that well again. Ever or at least not this soon.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25413: Jan 12th 2023 at 2:35:14 PM

[up]

What if these two are Gabe and what's her name, but given new bodies and a new chance at life?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25414: Jan 12th 2023 at 3:21:52 PM

I wouldn’t care for that.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25415: Jan 12th 2023 at 3:43:00 PM

[up]

Then that's what will happen. Because Marvel will believe that will sell the most issues. You've doomed us all Bocaj.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25416: Jan 12th 2023 at 3:45:02 PM

Dammit.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25417: Jan 12th 2023 at 3:53:08 PM

Eh.

It happens.

Pretty sure I've doomed us all about ten or twenty times.

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MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#25418: Jan 12th 2023 at 4:30:56 PM

Thinking about The Incident From Six Months Ago, I wanted to see if I had everything straight about what we do know so far.

  • Six months ago, there was a crater in Pennsylvania.
  • For six months, Peter (functionally or actually) disappeared from the Earth. Maybe MJ too.
  • With Norman's help, Peter did something to save a loved one, later revealed to be MJ.
  • The general superhero community and MJ are now angry at Peter for what he did.
  • Paul???
  • Maybe MJ (and also Peter?) were away for more than six months by their count.

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#25419: Jan 12th 2023 at 4:59:22 PM

Clearly that crater was from a meteor that split the Earth into parallel dimensions on point of impact.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Jan 12th 2023 at 7:59:29 AM

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#25420: Jan 12th 2023 at 5:03:02 PM

Do they plan to answer any questions someday?

Wake me up at your own risk.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#25421: Jan 12th 2023 at 5:18:55 PM

Is it bad to answer a question with another question?

Random theory though. I vaguely remembered the character Judas Traveller and I saw that he is recently back in comics and his powers are all about illusions and messing with people's minds. And interestingly, his earlier appearance was connected with Ben Reilly's interactions with Peter, which are currently a big thing again.

Or I don't know. Maybe Paul is Mysterio. That kind of thing is also in his wheelhouse.

MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#25422: Jan 12th 2023 at 5:22:38 PM

Memory serve me right, Wells said in an interview the big reveal is coming in March. Whether anyone will be happy with the reveal is another matter.

Random thought: Did they name him Paul to contrast him against Peter? As in, the two major apostolic figures of Christianity? Surely they did not.

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#25423: Jan 12th 2023 at 5:24:47 PM

Also there’s a resonance to Peter, Paul, and Mary.

MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#25424: Jan 12th 2023 at 5:41:02 PM

...No. Do you think you're funny, Marvel?

Then again, they also decided to turn MJ into Jackpot, so maybe they do think they're funny.

Speaking of Paul, are he and MJ married or simply dating and he has kids from a previous relationship (or with MJ and there are funny time shenanigans)?

Edited by MetaSkipper on Jan 12th 2023 at 8:41:35 AM

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25425: Jan 13th 2023 at 2:09:01 AM

[up] Paul and MJ aren't married as far as I know, we know the kids see MJ as their mom, but they've never been seen enough times to call Paul 'daddy' or whatnot.


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