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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#25251: Nov 18th 2022 at 2:26:03 PM

"Wait, were they specifically based on Weinstein" Their last name was Rothstein. And there were other things, as well. It wasn't even a subtle Take That!, it was writer Ron Zimmerman clearly not liking Weinstein at all and laying out on the page his reasons for it.

X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#25252: Nov 19th 2022 at 9:18:44 AM

She's in a supporting role in Amazing right now, and she's gonna get her own tie-in comic whenever Dark Web comes out. It really does seem like they're not too sure about giving her another ongoing yet.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#25253: Nov 19th 2022 at 11:46:35 AM

[up][up]I just find that very surprising to consider how many people knew of Weinstein's actions as someone who didn't even know the guy's name until 2014.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#25254: Nov 19th 2022 at 12:20:19 PM

Weinstein’s behavior was apparently well known in show business circles for decades, but I’m not surprised it took so long for him to be directly accused - in addition to his industry clout that let him end the careers of whoever he wanted, he also had a private detective agency comprised mostly of ex-government assassins as his beck and call. Yes, really.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25255: Nov 20th 2022 at 4:58:22 AM

[up][up] There's all sorts of shitty and shady people in showbiz who occupy more management roles that keep them away from the limelight.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25256: Nov 21st 2022 at 8:57:19 AM

I was alerted to something on CBR, a Venom-themed expansion pack for the board game 'Marvel Villanous', standard cards for Peter and even Ben in his Scarlet Spider days, but one card for MJ refers to her as "Mary Jane Parker"

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25257: Nov 21st 2022 at 8:59:58 AM

So? A board game with a Venom themed deck is referencing the era where Mary Jane was married to Peter.

It's not like it's a hint to Mephisto's deal getting reversed. It'll never happen.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25258: Nov 21st 2022 at 11:10:05 AM

[up] We'll see. People thought Sins Past could never be retconned after so long. Look what happened. People thought Ben Reilly would never be resurrected after so long. Look what happened.

Nick Spencer's very run ended with a hint Peter and MJ's kid will defeat Mephisto, the marriage-centric Lost Hunt is the first book to be published set in the unaltered past of 616 since OMD was implemented. One of Norman's sins in Gold Goblin is 'the baby', The Unlimited app is publishing new MC 2 stories again.

Marriage is money more so than ever. Only a matter of time. You'll never convince me it's gone forever.

Edited by Zarius on Nov 21st 2022 at 11:21:17 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#25259: Nov 21st 2022 at 11:28:15 AM

If how the Sins Past retcon was handled is any indication, fixing One More Day may result in an even worse story. I'll settle for them just getting Peter and MJ back together.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25260: Nov 24th 2022 at 3:29:30 AM

Carlos Gomez appears to have caused a bit of a stir on social media by claiming noone at the company is 'on board' with editorial's current status quo for ASM.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25261: Nov 24th 2022 at 3:32:11 AM

He doesn't say at the company, that could mean the fan reaction.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#25262: Nov 24th 2022 at 3:44:57 AM

Or could even be a "yes, we acknowledge that this is not a good status quo for the characters", acknowledging the in-universe impact, rather than "this is not a good place for the story".

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25263: Nov 24th 2022 at 6:29:56 AM

It's a bit vague on who he does mean, even the last part of his post doesn't sound too keen on whether or not learning what Peter did will convince people to give it a further chance

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25264: Nov 24th 2022 at 9:15:22 AM

Yikes, wasn't expecting someone who wasn't Twitter user #207163541 to just say the status quo ain't great.

But for context, the full quote is:

haha I'm glad! Yeah nobody is on board with the situation but I guess months from now when we learn what Peter did we might understand... A little bit?

Yeah, the editorial team themselves isn't explicitly mentioned, but on the flip side, the "nobody" in "nobody is on board" can mean a lot of things. It could be referencing the more-than-noticeable fan reaction from social media or (as Zarius implied) literally no one, especially the editors, are okay with this status quo.

Either Mr. Gomez is just speaking broadly or he's choosing his words carefully. Because if not even the editorial team, whom we thought were the real villains in Peter's life, are cool with the status quo, then I wouldn't be surprised if social media slammed into turbo (and not maximum overdrive) and really give Marvel Comics even more hell.

But mind you, all of this is speculative and we probably shouldn't be dissecting this like it was the Ark of the Covenant. Now, unless someone from Marvel Comics starts using Morse code to say "Carlos wasn't kidding! No one likes it! We're forced to do this against our will! Send help!", then we can panic.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25265: Nov 24th 2022 at 9:21:41 AM

A lot of what OMD did to kill any interest I have in mainstream Pete is that he's just constantly spinning his wheels now.

And TBH, a lot of recent Spider-Man stories feel un-Spider-Man like. Particularly the Parker industries era, and now him working for Norman Osborn and getting tech from him.

Not to mention that whole business with Kindred.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25266: Nov 24th 2022 at 9:37:21 AM

[up] It's like some higher-up at Marvel has a very strange and largely inaccurate idea of how Peter Parker should be used and this higher-up is getting away with it because, duh, higher-ups are untouchable.

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#25267: Nov 27th 2022 at 11:40:09 PM

Assuming if (when) Ben does become good again, I have to wonder if they'll let him keep his Chasm powers. It could be a very obvious way to differentiate him from Peter and the other Spidermen. Pete's the base, Kaine can talk to spiders and lacks the Spider Sense, and Miles has his Venom Strike.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25269: Nov 28th 2022 at 12:14:12 AM

Oh shit, Ben Reilly is evil again?

I thought Doc Ock fixed him.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#25270: Nov 28th 2022 at 12:16:00 AM

He became evil again at the end of the Beyond arc.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25271: Nov 28th 2022 at 12:16:55 AM

Oh right. Shit forgot about that.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#25272: Nov 28th 2022 at 6:04:54 AM

As someone who isn't super familiar with Ben Reilly, the reason he's been evil like 3 times now is because nobody seems to have a good idea about how to differentiate him from Peter and so now he's filling up the spot in the rogues gallery that Venom used to occupy. Like, move him to Los Angeles, sure, but what would that do to substantially change the types of Spider-Man stories you can tell with him?

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#25273: Nov 28th 2022 at 6:20:52 AM

They could have just left him dead.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25275: Nov 28th 2022 at 9:22:56 AM

Seriously? That guy?

Huh. Legit.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 28th 2022 at 12:23:21 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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