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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25201: Nov 13th 2022 at 12:52:41 PM

Zeb Wells' Spider-Man run finally gets ready to reveal its big secret!

In the aftermath of DARK WEB, prepare to learn the truth behind one of the biggest mystery in recent Spider-Man memory! What happened all those months ago between Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson? You will be amazed!

Took them long enough. I still think they should've fed us hints throughout the run, but what do I know about writing Spider-Man apparently? tongue

If The Lost Hunt ends up being significant to this run, maybe the reveal might have been Peter tried to bring back his daughter...except it didn't work because he doesn't really remember the Mephisto deal? And MJ does know the deal, but has been cursed to not be able to just tell Peter?

Man are the trades for Spider-Man rapidly listed

I guess that's what happens when your books sell like hotcakes regardless of what social media says about its quality.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 13th 2022 at 3:52:54 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25203: Nov 15th 2022 at 3:59:09 AM

Oh jeez. Really milking this Alternate Gwen concept.

There already was a Goblin Gwen for crying out loud, now there’s a Sinister Six of her?

Has she even got back at her version of Sue and Johnny?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 15th 2022 at 6:59:31 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25205: Nov 15th 2022 at 5:40:22 AM

Still makes more sense than the Attack on Titan crossover.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25206: Nov 15th 2022 at 6:14:29 AM

Oh jeez. Really milking this Alternate Gwen concept.

I'm pretty lenient on a lot of comic book BS, but even I admit "Gwen Stacy supervillain variants" is a bit overkill. Silver lining, the artist is Kei Zama, and their work on Transformers is S+++!

Has she even got back at her version of Sue and Johnny?

I think someone said that that got resolved off-panel, but I'm not sure? Side note, man, writers these days really love resolving plot lines off-panel, don't they?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 15th 2022 at 9:28:51 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25207: Nov 15th 2022 at 6:19:10 AM

Fuck it, as far as I'm concerned, Doctor Doom escaped from hell, killed those versions of Sue and Johnny, and conquered Spider-Gwen's universe.

It's not like we'll ever see that universe again anyway. [lol]

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25208: Nov 15th 2022 at 6:45:22 AM

Yes, it got resolved off panel before the gwen alts miniseries

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#25209: Nov 15th 2022 at 6:54:22 AM

To be fair Sn K totally stole Spidey's movement style. tongue

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25210: Nov 15th 2022 at 8:24:08 AM

[up][up] Wait, how exactly?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25211: Nov 15th 2022 at 10:17:30 AM

Hell if I know. All I know is she’s back in her own universe in that book like it ain’t even a thing

“At some point, Gwen and MJ returned to Earth-65 and Gwen resumed her previous status quo of superheroing and attending university in Earth-616, annoying MJ”

All I can find on marvel wiki

The evil sue storm page doesn’t even have any events after the Storms exiled Gwen

Edited by Bocaj on Nov 15th 2022 at 1:22:09 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25212: Nov 15th 2022 at 10:48:57 AM

Fuck it, Doctor Doom came back from hell and killed her and Johnny off-camera.

That's the explanation I'm going with.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#25213: Nov 15th 2022 at 11:09:28 AM

Damn they really don't have any idea what to do with the character after the whole "college in 616 earth" failed.

It's kinda funny really. She's a popular character so they'll keep giving her stuff but they have no idea what.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 15th 2022 at 11:13:48 AM

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25214: Nov 16th 2022 at 9:21:38 AM

Gold Gobin#1

We follow a day in the life of Norman a few hours removed from rescuing Peter from the Hobgoblins. The public know who he is due to an expose in the paper, Norman's a little annoyed he's been given the Gold Goblin nickname. After a chat with Peter, Norman spends time with Normie, who's playing Baseball

Normie's whacks of the bat give Norman PTSD over his murder of Gwen. Norman also remembers several other wrongdoings, such as getting Flash Thompson drunk in Paul Jenkin's run, capturing Aunt May while she was in a coma (1990s Clone Saga) and turning Carlie into 'Monster' during Superior. Gwen herself continues to haunt Norman. Eventually Norman battles a new Jack O'Lantern and defeats him, and signs an autograph for some kids

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25215: Nov 16th 2022 at 3:53:17 PM

So I came across this youtube dub of a random fan-comic and wanted to put it up here:

This seems like something the younger and angrier Peter of the early Lee-Ditko days would do. As for how I feel about it, my current less than stellar feelings towards Cops makes me like it, but I do feel like the dude needed to be a bit more of an asshole...yeah. I know. He's a cop and ACAB, but we don't actually know what the dude he was ticketing was doing. For all we know, he parked in a handicapped zone or something and deserved to be ticketed.

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Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#25216: Nov 16th 2022 at 8:32:21 PM

[up] It says at the start: loitering. The guy was getting a ticket for loitering. Which is, indeed, bullshit.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25217: Nov 16th 2022 at 8:57:57 PM

[up]

Huh. I was under the impression he was just adding loitering to an earlier change.

Ok. Good work Spidey.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25218: Nov 16th 2022 at 11:48:18 PM

[up][up][up] This is the reaction I wish Spidey would have when villains like Kingpin or Tombstone try to outmaneuver him legally.

"You're trespassing"

"My entire existence is breaking the law"

and then he breaks their teeth

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25219: Nov 16th 2022 at 11:50:04 PM

Guys like Norman and Wilson would just use Spider-Man illegally entering and beating them up as a way to garner sympathy and PR points with the public.

Gobby actually did this in the lead up to Identity Crisis.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25220: Nov 17th 2022 at 12:40:47 AM

sure but they'd still have broken teeth

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25221: Nov 17th 2022 at 12:47:25 AM

Yes but unlike the rest of America, they actually have good healthcare.

I mean Fisk took a symbiote powered fist to the face from Spider-Man in that AU and survived.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25222: Nov 17th 2022 at 1:03:47 AM

that is pure plot power bs tho

plus spidey can just break their teeth again

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25223: Nov 17th 2022 at 1:53:43 AM

Maybe plot armor in Fisk's case, but Norman is superhuman and can take damage from Spider-Man.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#25224: Nov 17th 2022 at 4:17:11 AM

[up][up] Sooner or later, that's going to stop being fun for Petertongue.

It's funny how little Norman relied on his wealth and status before the Clone Saga. Hell, the reason it took so long for his identity to be exposed is because Peter didn't tell anyone outside of MJ and a few others.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25225: Nov 17th 2022 at 4:22:10 AM

We do actually see him use his wealth back in the old days, besides using it to fund his Goblin hobby, which can't be cheap considering all the tech he uses, he's also shown outright disguising himself and paying some thugs to attack Spider-Man in the final issue of the Lee-Ditko run.

Not as the Goblin mind you, but we are actually shown Norman putting on a disguise and using his money.

And if you really want to be technical, Norman is portrayed as an evil businessman hiring supervillains to kill Spider-Man in Untold Tales which were written before the Clone Saga happened.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 17th 2022 at 7:29:31 AM

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