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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25151: Oct 31st 2022 at 11:35:24 AM

Peter knows MJ's relationship with Paul is sus and controlling. He challenged MJ on her feelings for Paul, he should be investigating the guy and trying to find out what his deal is, maybe bring Felicia into it too, instead of trying to bury his feelings and shacking up with a woman who has proven time and again to be an incompatible match.

...Wait a minute.

How is it that we're not seeing Peter investigating Paul? Like, a lot of my grievances over this run could be forgiven if we actually saw somebody investigating Paul. I mean, all we know about the guy is that he has two kids, one who looks creepily like a young MJ, apparently has anger problems that lead to him fantasizing about beating up Peter at least once. That's just begging for an "investigating the OC" arc!

Come on, Marvel and Zeb Wells! Use this! We have to know! Who the actual hell is Paul?!?

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#25152: Oct 31st 2022 at 1:22:12 PM

What exactly has Paul done that warrants an investigation? All that does is make Peter look like a jealous ex.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25153: Oct 31st 2022 at 1:32:27 PM

[up] So he's to sit back and do nothing while Paul controls his soul mate?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25154: Oct 31st 2022 at 3:33:50 PM

[up] Who would've guessed that I'd see an Armor-Piercing Question be used unironically in a thread?

But yeah, whatever Paul's deal happens to be, it feels like it spells trouble for Peter. (Again, Paul was the one fantasizing about beating Peter to a pulp.)

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#25155: Oct 31st 2022 at 8:50:48 PM

If Peter and Black Cat got together pre-superior or something it wouldn't be a rebound because Peter wasn't really with anyone and there are no hangups.

Showing MJ with a new guy who's very shady and explaining nothing about him, and showing Peter actively wanting to communicate with MJ and not being allowed to means that the Black Cat romance comes off as an afterthought no matter how hard Doc Ock's tentacles watch them make out.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#25156: Oct 31st 2022 at 8:59:19 PM

[up][up][up] How is he controlling her? Beyond "don't hang out with your ex," what's Paul done to MJ? As someone who lives with his ex, I'm not inclined towards sympathy for anyone who tries to forbid their partner from staying friends with an ex, but even so, if that's the worst Paul's done, then I'm not really seeing much cause for concern.

As for whether Peter should step back - kinda, yeah. Shit, even if Paul's been actually abusive to MJ, there's only so much Peter can really do. If MJ doesn't want his help, then his options are pretty limited. Forcing his way into matters is probably only going to piss her off, since he'd be ignoring the boundaries she's set. And, again, if the worst thing Paul's done to MJ is tell her not to hang out with Peter? Not exactly the kinda thing that tingles the ol' Spider-sense.

So, yeah, the most responsible choice for Peter to make actually is to respect MJ's boundaries, make sure she knows he'll always be there for, and move on with his own life.

Edited by Tiamatty on Oct 31st 2022 at 11:59:33 AM

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25157: Oct 31st 2022 at 11:05:39 PM

We still don't know the context of that panel of Paul seemingly attacking Peter.

The idea that he's fantasizing about it is fan speculation. When I read the issue, it seemed more straightforwardly like a flashback showing a previous altercation (and why Peter is looking "much better" in the present day). It just seems to be part of the mystery plot of Peter screwing things up, and why he can't talk to MJ anymore.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25158: Nov 4th 2022 at 12:23:36 AM

Preview of MJ/Black Cat, with a first look at MJ's new powers

Preview of The Lost Hunt #1 with Powerless Pete, and preggers MJ.

Tiamatty, MJ was going to tell Peter something before Paul interrupted her, she's been seen hiding in closets when communicating with Peter by phone, she seems more hung up on her 'responsibilities' to Paul than confessing she's staying with him out of love when Peter calls her out on it.

She's being controlled, and you expect Peter to 'respect' her boundaries when he's worried sick about what could be justifying her behaviour? No, I don't think so. Peter should be investigating this. Hell, maybe that's what he WAS doing and that's what triggered Paul's violent outburst on him. Peter still isn't in the right frame of mind, and no, it's also evident from reading the book he's not over MJ and therefore CANNOT 'move on with his life', as he's just using Felicia as a rebound until such time as he works through his feelings.

We all know he and MJ won't move on, everything set up by this is designed to artificially keep them apart, and they'll be back together, so I don't see the point in desiring him to set up a flawed relationship with Felicia that is built on an unhealthy foundation. Peter should fight for MJ, she's his true love and we both know it.

Edited by Zarius on Nov 4th 2022 at 12:34:20 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25159: Nov 4th 2022 at 12:21:16 PM

Spider-Man#2 preview

Peter refers to Anya as Spider-Girl, but she corrects him and tells him she's Arana again.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#25160: Nov 4th 2022 at 10:58:39 PM

Anya finally has magical powers!

Hopefully the exoskeleton will be back too!

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25162: Nov 9th 2022 at 3:58:19 AM

Amazing Spider-Man#13

Kafka/Queen Goblin was behind both Ned and Kingsley being brainwashed by the Winkler machine, she also supplied Norman with the laptop in the hospital knowing he would watch the fight and would want to get involved. He did so as Gold Goblin and came close to killing the Hobbies, until Peter intervened. Kafka believes Norman is one step closer to returning to his sinful ways. Peter was brutalised and unmasked, but I doubt either Kingsley or Leeds will remember who he is because they're brainwashed

Edited by Zarius on Nov 9th 2022 at 3:59:17 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25163: Nov 9th 2022 at 4:12:14 AM

I fully expect Norman to turn evil again at this point.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25164: Nov 9th 2022 at 6:38:42 AM

Spider-Man#2

Morlun's motivations for joining the good guys are revealed Shathra murdered the infant Inheritors

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#25165: Nov 9th 2022 at 10:25:13 AM

Did anyone read that Spider-Man 2099 Exodus mini by Steve Orlando and Kim Jacinto? I've heard good things about Orlando but it didn't really seem a Miguel story so much as a "let's introduce a bunch of new 2099 characters with Miguel as the hook" kind of thing.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25166: Nov 9th 2022 at 10:26:12 AM

I read a few of the books and yeah that’s what it seemed like

A spider man tradition honored, I guess

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#25167: Nov 9th 2022 at 10:28:16 AM

I hear reception to it was rather middling

Too confusing with the constant set-up and not really that entertaining

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25168: Nov 9th 2022 at 12:29:01 PM

Lost Hunt#1

Peter's being haunted by visions of his greatest enemies and isn't coping with the loss of his powers. He's begun to retreat, cutting himself off even from a pregnant and emotionally vulnerable Mary Jane, who is having trouble adjusting to life away from her friends and family. MJ's taken to teaching kids all about drama as a way of coping. Peter later meets Tracy Maxba, an award winning travelling lecturer, while the source of Peter's troubling dreams, Kraven's mentor Gregor, conspires to hunt down and eliminate 'The Spider'. Peter is mentally broken by Gregor and finds solace in Mary Jane's arms

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25169: Nov 10th 2022 at 8:42:49 AM

Notes from "End of Spider-Verse" part two

The Baby Inheritors were all murdered by an infected Spider-Ma'am. Morlun attacked her so I presume she's been consumed by him?

Morlun also claims another victim. RIP Amalgam's Spider-Boy

I thought 'Earth 616 Beta' was going to be revealed as the newspaper strip reality since it too was hidden from detection in the first Spider-Verse story, but it's apparently a trial version of the traditional Marvel universe that we didn't know about?

The cliffhanger, revealing the 'whole' Spider-Verse, sans Peter's team, had been infected, included a Scarlet Spider variant, but no sign of Annie's parents. I mean, I know Peter wouldn't stand out at all because he wears the traditional Spidey costume and would not have been distinct enough, but surely they could have included MJ as Spinerett

Edited by Zarius on Nov 10th 2022 at 8:44:15 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#25172: Nov 10th 2022 at 11:39:29 AM

I swear why does every Spider-Verse conflict have to involve Morlun?

They can't have any other villain for that?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#25173: Nov 10th 2022 at 11:43:16 AM

Spider-Carnage or an actual alternate Kraven and family would be more interesting, really.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#25174: Nov 10th 2022 at 2:07:05 PM

Oh, hadn't noted the detail that the arm Morlun is holding is from Spider-Boy!

[up] Yeah, I agree, at least here we have a different main villain.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25175: Nov 10th 2022 at 11:38:21 PM

Meanwhile, Ghost Spider gets another mini in 2023, she's facing off against clones of herself that have been given the powers of all of Peter's villains.

I'm beginning to think those running variant cover marketing have more say in plotlines than writers

Edited by Zarius on Nov 10th 2022 at 11:38:37 AM


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