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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#22776: Sep 6th 2021 at 4:52:21 AM

Maybe I've just become inured to it but so far this doesn't even seem like the most convoluted Osborn scheme we've had.

We still don't know all the details yet, but the page was leaked where the AI Harry makes fun of Norman and tells him he's an idiot for thinking he had kids with Gwen.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#22777: Sep 6th 2021 at 5:04:39 AM

It seems a bit cribbed from the awesome 2009 'Real' Clone Saga, which also featured a 'Harry is behind everything' plotline with a sin-free Norman Osborn teaming with Peter to save the day

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#22778: Sep 6th 2021 at 5:09:46 AM

[up][up][up] Apparently the twins may be test-tube babies actually made from Gwen and Pater's DNA.

[up] Damn there's a lot of clone sagas.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 6th 2021 at 5:10:15 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#22779: Sep 6th 2021 at 5:27:07 AM

[up] Honestly, that test tube explanation makes more sense than anything else RN.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#22780: Sep 6th 2021 at 5:28:51 AM

About my only worry is I think I remember seeing a cover where he kissed the twin-girl so I'm wondering if he accidently made out with his daughter now or something.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 6th 2021 at 5:37:51 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#22781: Sep 6th 2021 at 5:33:58 AM

Peter apparently had a thing for Sarah. So damn creepy....

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#22782: Sep 6th 2021 at 5:41:44 AM

I'm pretty sure it was Sarah who kissed him. Peter was married at the time and I don't think he had a thing for her.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#22783: Sep 6th 2021 at 6:35:27 AM

The cover is "clickbait." No kiss happened.

Also if the A.I. Harry from Legacy of Evil is the mastermind, that technically means the story did not lie about Kindred being Harry. Just sort of a proxy thing.

The supernatural element is the only thing that still needs an explanation. A.I. Harry never had these resurrection powers and it can't ALL be clones/robots. There's also a matter of Mysterio being approached while in the actual Hell.

Edited by Luminosity on Sep 6th 2021 at 4:38:47 PM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#22784: Sep 6th 2021 at 6:47:55 AM

Oh hey Luminosity, haven't seen you in a long time!

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#22785: Sep 6th 2021 at 7:23:17 AM

[up][up] No I'm fairly sure Sarah does kiss Peter, because I distinctly remember MJ walking in and getting mad about it.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#22786: Sep 6th 2021 at 7:23:48 AM

....

So that means that it was AI Harry's plan to get cucked by Norman with Menace, or...?

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#22787: Sep 6th 2021 at 7:29:42 AM

[up][up][up] Huh. Someone remembers me. Didn't expect that :D

[up][up] Oh right. Yeah. It's still a fakeout kiss. Sarah comes on to him, and Peter's immediate reaction the very next page is "NO NO NO NOPE NOPE NOPE." The clickbait cover makes it look like an actual thing.

https://ibb.co/Yt6kHVC - proof. If you're wondering how I have this crap on hand, I have nearly every Spider-Man comic up until Superior.

Edited by Luminosity on Sep 6th 2021 at 5:37:33 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#22788: Sep 6th 2021 at 7:31:49 AM

So Harry's been dead this whole time, and evil A.I Harry has been pulling the strings? That's certainly a rabbit hole.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#22790: Sep 6th 2021 at 2:50:51 PM

So Sins Past has been rendered irrelevant and Norman and Gwen never ever ever did it and Harry just made Norman think he did out of spite.

Thank you, Nick Spencer for hakai-ing that piece of Spidey lore into oblivion. But then again, it's just hitting me that A) Harry probably did the same to Gwen, so he's not exactly the better man in this situation and B) if Harry has been dead this whole time...then who's the Harry that's been with Carlie?

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#22791: Sep 6th 2021 at 2:56:58 PM

Just to make sure I'm not missing anything, the twins themselves have not (been stated to have) made an appearance yet, just that Bleeding Cool leaked a page or so of the upcoming issues implying Sins Past will be retconned, right?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#22793: Sep 6th 2021 at 3:21:42 PM

It also lines up well with the teaser showing what seem to be TWO Kindreds - one is wearing purple, looks like Gwen, and is talking to MJ, and the other is wearing grey, Gabe's associated color, and being chased by Peter.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#22794: Sep 7th 2021 at 4:48:46 AM

There will be a bonus story in tomorrow's issue too, from Joe Quesada and John Romita Jr. Don't worry, it's got nothing to do with Sins Past or OMD, it's a sequel to the 9/11 issue.

Edited by Zarius on Sep 7th 2021 at 4:48:54 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#22796: Sep 7th 2021 at 5:18:02 AM

Will Kindred and Mephisto cry over 9/11 this time?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#22797: Sep 7th 2021 at 5:18:47 AM

I can only imagine how awful this is gonna look with Romita drawing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#22798: Sep 7th 2021 at 5:25:42 AM

aw i really like his art style

Maybe because i associate it with JMS' run

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#22799: Sep 7th 2021 at 5:25:53 AM

What has Romita Jr. drawn again? I only remember his dad from my Lee-Romita collection.

[up] Oh right. He's not bad as an artist.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 7th 2021 at 8:28:52 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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