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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
I'll give that scene credit for one thing in that it does show one way Ben is different from Peter.
I do think physical bullying still occurs in high school. It just isn't limited to jocks beating up nerds.
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I've seen it described as feeling very much like something written by an inexperienced fanfic writer, with it's Cliché Storm premise, and over reliance on commonly overused tropes with Spider-Man and especially Spider-Man AUs (RYV, Spider-Girl, and God help us, Reign), without bringing a whole lot new or interesting to the table.
Which would actually make sense, if it's true that Henry Abrams did most of the writing.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:00:14 AM
I mean, it’s being written by a kid who’s maybe 19 with some help from his dad, so I don’t want to be too harsh. It’s Henry Abrams’s first comics writing gig and I’m sure it was a fun way to bond with his father. I just think there are way more interesting things you could do with an out-of-continuity “Spidey & Son 15 Years Later” story than “Peter Parker has a strained relationship with his rebellious teenage son and also he’s sad I guess because MJ died.” I mean, I’m still waiting for the trade before I read Life Story, but from what I’ve heard on this thread, it’s going for some wild choices with its hypothetical non-616 story.
And, I mean, I shouldn’t throw stones about writing Spider-Man fan fiction. If my dad was a rich Hollywood producer who could hook me up with Marvel, you can bet your web-shooters I’d actually finish whatever story I started writing five years ago and sell it to Marvel.
At least Sara Pichelli’s art is good.
Edited by RedM on Sep 19th 2019 at 5:10:01 AM
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yeah, I don’t want to be too harsh on it either. It’s not terrible, and the potential is definitely there, but his inexperience as a writer is painfully obvious.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 19th 2019 at 7:50:23 AM
Kindred has some sort of connection to Norman Osborn. https://www.cbr.com/excl-amazing-spider-man-30-preview/
Hey, something else we can add to our running list of things we know about Kindred.
- Kindred: similar in kind; one’s family or relations
- Centipede Themed demon
- Made a deal with Quentin Beck, to bring him back from the dead after he committed Suicide
- Was a human that became a demon
- Working with Mysterio
- Is the reason Mysterio now wants to make the movie that MJ is starring in.
- Really touchy about his name
- Is likely someone Peter (and the audience) would recognize
- claims to know Peter “better than he knows himself”
- seems to want to keep Peter from proposing to MJ
- Has some sort of connection to Wilson Fisk
- possible connection to Norman Osborn.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 21st 2019 at 8:40:39 AM
Jackal? Harry Osborn? Frederick Foswell? Gwen Stacy? Anna Watson? Mephisto? Mayday Parker? Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham? Steve Ditko? The possibilities are endless!
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 19th 2019 at 8:11:05 AM
It's a version of Peter Parker.
that would actually make a lot of sense.
Accidental double post.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 19th 2019 at 9:31:48 AM
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Yep, after that preview I'm on the boat of saying Kindred is OMD Peter.
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1. Messed-up face Norman 2. Tommy Lee Jones Norman 3. Kindred 4. Willem Dafoe
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Team Rocket Boss.
What better way to bury the marriage than to make the married Spider-Man a villain? Genius, and very shrewd.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Since we're still basically taking shots in the dark, I've seen speculation that Kindred is the body of the original Doc Ock that died with Peter's mind inside of it, at the beginning of Superior.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 19th 2019 at 12:34:37 PM
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What if Kindred is Villainous Failure Manchild Peter?
He wants MJ and Peter apart to justify to himself his bad decisions. Like an evil take on Spider-Verse's Peter B.
Edited by RodimusMinor on Sep 19th 2019 at 12:29:42 PM
So here's the running list so far (In no particular order).
- The burglar that killed Uncle Ben
- Pre-OMD Peter
- Villainous Failure Manchild Peter
- Ned Leeds
- Harry Osborne
- The Corpse of (the original) Doc Ock
- Ezekiel
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The daughter that they gave up when they sold their marriage to Mephisto -
Gwen Stacey
Is there anything we can rule out?
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 23rd 2019 at 11:54:04 AM
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I'm going to say it's not Peter's OMD daughter because "I'm here to get revenge because Satan aborted me" is maybe inappropriate for a Spider-Man comic.
It can't be Gwen Stacey, because they already did that with Dead No More and she apparently forgave Peter.
I can definitely see that.
On the other hand, it would be following up on a subplot from OMD itself.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 19th 2019 at 12:56:29 PM
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I think she just says "I'm not going to be born because you're dumb and wow did Marvel editorial not think about the implications of this."
OMD is best left ignored in the event of another wedding.
Oooh, corpse of Doc Ock would be a GREAT way to reveal Kindred. I’m hoping for that one now.
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Abrams’ Spider-Man #1: Can we all agree to put to rest the cliche where the protagonist, before becoming a superhero, sees someone getting bullied by your typical troglodyte stock bully character and picks a fight with the bully to show they’ve got a heart of gold and a strong sense of justice even before getting powers? It’s been done to death and it’s unrealistic. I don’t think I ever saw a “jock” beating up a “nerd”, or even saw any beatings in general in high school. A more realistic and less cliche scene would be, I don’t know, the hero making an effort to be kind to a classmate who’s gay, or a seven-eyed plasma-eating purple mutant, or otherwise marginalized and excluded.
Probably not gonna pick up the rest of this miniseries. Seems pretty by-the-numbers.
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