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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#38651: Sep 16th 2025 at 4:53:47 AM

If you get Doom and Magneto involved and angry, then either Earth-616's fictionalised al-Qaeda abruptly ceases to exist, or they need a reason that doesn't happen. Such as their own superhumans.

Which is more or less how Marvel and DC handled WW2, but it's much easier to do that when looking back at a war that safely ended a long time ago.

Some of the early Iron Man villains were linked to Vietnam, but that always seemed to land more awkwardly than the Axis villains and the cold warUSSR assets.

Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 16th 2025 at 12:53:59 PM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#38652: Sep 16th 2025 at 6:06:02 AM

The artists and writers who did that tribute got really furious at fandom being unable to take the tribute as a, "This is about the real event being memorialized from us as New Yorkers. Not from in-universe."

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#38653: Sep 16th 2025 at 6:14:39 AM

It would have been more acceptable as a what if if they'd published it as a non canonical one shot but they put it out as an issue of the Amazing ongoing iirc.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#38654: Sep 16th 2025 at 6:33:48 AM

[up][up] Probably should have stuck to just the hero characters then. It’s not like there’s a shortage of them to fill out a memorial issue with.

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TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#38655: Sep 16th 2025 at 7:34:31 AM

[up] And if they did have to include villains, maybe they should have at least left out the one villain (at the time, IIRC) who canonically smashed the Twin Towers himself For the Evulz some years beforehand.

Edited by TrashJack on Sep 16th 2025 at 10:38:06 AM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
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#38656: Sep 16th 2025 at 8:13:59 AM

Well, that depends. If fans were criticizing writers on the letters' pages or some other manner of "direct" engagement, then I get being angry. Flawed or not, it was clearly done for emotional reasons more than anything else, and it quickly passed.

Now if the writers were angry because people on platforms such as this very forum were criticizing their comic book amongst themselves, well, that's stupid. Expecting people to be polite to you, personally, in your moment of mourning is fine. Expecting no one to express a contrary opinion anywhere at any time is foolish.

I honestly don't know the context behind the writers' responses, or even what those responses are, and with that lack of knowledge I'm prone to leaning either way.

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Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#38657: Sep 16th 2025 at 5:00:31 PM

I in no way blame the creators. They were grieving, and people were bitching about canon. It was one of those things where fans really should have just let it go. Was it silly to have Doom cry about the Twin Towers? Yeah, sure. But who fucking cares? Genuinely, why does it matter? Just take it for what it was: New Yorkers using their art to grieve.

"Juggernaut already destroyed the Twin Towers!" Yes, in a fictional story, but now the creators were dealing with fucking reality and trying to process some Very Heavy Shit. So fuck what the Juggernaut did. It doesn't matter what the Juggernaut did. It never mattered what the Juggernaut did, because he's a fictional character.

Complaints about that comic prove that sometimes, fandom is a mistake. I say this with all sincerity: People needed to shut the fuck up and let it go. Still do, it seems.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#38658: Sep 16th 2025 at 5:08:06 PM

Honestly, it probably should have released as a separate comic, instead of interrupting actual books. People wouldn't think as much about canon if they didn't put it in the middle of two Spider-Man issues.

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#38659: Sep 16th 2025 at 5:08:30 PM

If you're so worried about reality maybe you shouldn't put the Juggernaut and Dr. Doom in it in the first place. If the intention is being true to real world issues maybe you should cut back on how many gratuitous fantastic elements you want to tug in.

Like, you don't need to bring those characters who don't really add anything in. You don't need to show Doom crying to say bombing buildings is a bad thing. You're overshooting.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#38660: Sep 17th 2025 at 9:57:08 AM

Knull is set to get a 5 issue miniseries next year. Al Ewing is set to write it.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38661: Sep 17th 2025 at 10:28:51 AM

Oh dang he is.

The King in Black Amasses New Power To Reclaim His Throne in Knull #1

5 issue mini written by Ewing along with Tom Waltz, and art by Juanan Ramirez.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chino514 (Apprentice)
#38662: Sep 17th 2025 at 10:29:56 AM

It doesn't feel like it's been that long since King in Black, why bring him back already?

Oh wait, I think I know why. Money.

Edited by chino514 on Sep 17th 2025 at 1:31:37 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38663: Sep 17th 2025 at 10:33:17 AM

Well Ki B ended in 2021 so its been around 4 to 5 years since the story ran.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 17th 2025 at 10:33:30 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#38664: Sep 17th 2025 at 10:51:51 AM

Ewing doing cosmic stuff is usually good, but the fact he's co-writing and the fact it's Knull have dulled my enthusiasm a little.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#38665: Sep 17th 2025 at 11:24:58 AM

5-ish years is a pretty decent length of time for a character to stay dead before their inevitable revival. No expies or knockoffs or A Us to hold them I over either.

I kinda respect that.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#38666: Sep 17th 2025 at 11:53:30 AM

I go back and forth on how much I like new ASM, but I feel like this is the most compelling Hobgoblin has been in a long time. I think putting him up against Norman is when he's at his best.

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#38667: Sep 17th 2025 at 1:19:52 PM

The romantic shit regarding MJ and Paul really made me hate the last run, so I'm enjoying the one a lot more, and it seems really promising. I'm actually excited to see Peter in space with Rocket. I know Spider-editorial doesn't play well with others, but maybe Spider-Man joins the Guardians of the Galaxy for an arc.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#38668: Sep 17th 2025 at 2:04:45 PM

Oh, the guardians exist again? They kinda got put on a bus after the lackluster Grootfall stuff

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38669: Sep 17th 2025 at 2:33:12 PM

Huh now that you bring it up, I can't remember the last time I saw the Guardians since the Lanzing/Kelly run.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#38670: Sep 17th 2025 at 3:43:23 PM

Well last I remember Guardians of the Galaxy (2023) put its toys back in the toy box, with everyone who was killed during Grootfall being resurrected. Idk what happened afterwards, so afaik unless Imperial broke them up they should be together.

Edited by GateStarX on Sep 17th 2025 at 3:43:35 AM

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#38671: Sep 17th 2025 at 6:22:15 PM

I read the latest issues with Spider-Norman, and I stand by what I said, he's a better leading man at this point than Peter.

I say this completely unironically. That's how badly Peter has been written these days.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38672: Sep 18th 2025 at 12:30:53 AM

Found this post of the latest issue and wow, there are so many spider-people.

Gwen, Spider-Boy, Miles, Anya, and Silk. 5 characters in all and thats not even the full total roster.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#38673: Sep 18th 2025 at 6:34:29 AM

It's going to be a bummer when Osborn goes back to being evil. His redemption arc over the last couple years is growing on me.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#38674: Sep 18th 2025 at 6:39:49 AM

Yeah, it's genuinely interesting to see him actually being forced to feel guilt and try to actually be a good guy.

He's also a dude in his late 40s-50s with a grandson, and the death of his son on conscience, he's got a very unique POV that isn't really explored in comics.

Like fuck it, Peter has become a fucking farce at this point since Editorial will NEVER let their stranglehold go, so I've already long given up hope on him and following iconic good guy character Norman since his character arc has lasted a decent amount of time and he's actually developing.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#38675: Sep 18th 2025 at 10:08:57 AM

It always disappoints me when comics give interesting face turn arcs to characters who will obviously never stay good, yeah. These things are better when given to characters who could believably stay good or evil, so you don’t know for sure if it’s going to stick.

Granted, comics rarely commit to those either. Though admittedly Marvel is way better about doing that than DC is.


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