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Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#126: Mar 9th 2011 at 9:59:58 AM

Ehh... maybe I'll leave the Beastmaster and Rogue out of it then. Although I'm tempted to retire my Rune Fencers as well, they haven't done much useful so far.

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#127: Mar 9th 2011 at 1:11:24 PM

Rune Fencers are only good as frontline healers, but Knights beat them at that anyway.

If you change your mind, you might wanna use a beast master to recruit an Octopus or Gryphon though. Those are very useful.

edited 9th Mar '11 1:11:36 PM by JotunofBoredom

Umbran Climax
Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#128: Mar 9th 2011 at 1:30:22 PM

Don't forget that Rune Fencers automatically can walk through water and have fairly good movement ranges. I wouldn't be using them for the rest of the game, but they're useful for the second chapter, when you have to deal with the swampy terrain and aqueducts.

Right now, I'm on the third chapter. Currently, my team consists of: Two ninjas, two mages, two clerics, a rogue, a knight, an archer, and a beast tamer (who I'll probably be switching to something else soon). I have a dragon now, but I don't really have anyone I'm up to sacrificing to put him in.

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#129: Mar 9th 2011 at 1:53:40 PM

[up]Rune Fencer's natural swimming is superfluous when you already own an Octopus and Flood Dragon.

Umbran Climax
Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#130: Mar 10th 2011 at 6:00:51 AM

Item crafting just got unlocked and... what the heck? It takes a ridiculous amount of time to get all the materials to craft just a single item... considering I have 12 people in my party it would probably take an hour and a half to kit them all out. Is it really worth it and/or does it ever get easier?

I have an aversion to having monsters in my party... dunno why, it just seems weird.

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#131: Mar 10th 2011 at 7:08:58 AM

[up]Stop being racist to Beasts. They've lived here just as long as anyone else. I love my Arc and Dark dragons. sad

Also Crafting is supposed to be done rarely, not for every party member.

A Rogue's steal ability tends to get different kinds of Ingots, so I don't have to go through the process of refining ores to get them. Granted so far it's just been Bronze and Iron.

edited 10th Mar '11 7:10:00 AM by JotunofBoredom

Umbran Climax
Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#132: Mar 10th 2011 at 11:22:36 AM

^^You can get almost every base material (sans leather) from the sundries section of the store.

edited 10th Mar '11 11:22:59 AM by Miijhal

Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#133: Mar 10th 2011 at 12:46:07 PM

Yeah, that's my issue - the base materials are all purchasable but it's just such a pain to have to create five different types of ore from the same base material, then combine them together six times just to get one part of the ingredient for a single item. X-X

Besserwisser from Planet of Hats Since: Dec, 2009
#134: Mar 11th 2011 at 7:58:17 AM

Is there any way to safe Arycelle in the Chaos path or am I just wasting my time trying to let her survive? So far it could be a Luck-Based Mission but I'm not sure. EDIT: OK, finally got her alive now.

edited 11th Mar '11 10:14:53 AM by Besserwisser

Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#135: Mar 11th 2011 at 10:40:10 AM

^Yeah... the AI is kind of...

'Special'.

Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#136: Mar 15th 2011 at 9:56:57 AM

...I get the feeling I'm not going to enjoy the fight with Vyse at the end of the third chapter...

CEOIII C-E-O-3, H-N-I-C from Franklin, PA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
C-E-O-3, H-N-I-C
#137: Mar 15th 2011 at 9:52:44 PM

I HAVE ALL THE DRAGONS! *dances*

(I'm assuming that a) there's a dragon for every school of magic in this game, and b) there's no War Dance dragon, ninjitsu dragon, or draconic dragon.)

I'm Charlie Owens, good night and good luck. PSNID: CEOIII 1117
Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#138: Mar 18th 2011 at 8:38:28 AM

OK, I'm officially done with this game. I'm midway through chapter 3. The sheer tedium required to do anything is driving me insane. I'm constantly broke so can't afford to use items to heal my characters (magic is useless). I know there are ways of making money involving recruiting or taming monsters, and have no intention of:

  1. Spending multiple battles gaining enough SP to learn a bunch of recruiting skills
  2. Getting into a battle and *almost* killing enemies
  3. Waiting 5 or 6 turns until I have enough TP to try and recruit them
  4. Try and fail to recruit them
  5. Sell off all their equipment, giving me enough money to buy maybe 1 piece of equipment for me, or 4 or 5 healing items

I'm at Mt. Weobry and have to "destroy all enemies" - despite *starting out* outnumbered and enemies continually getting reinforcements. It takes forty-five minutes to realize I'm getting destroyed. I tried three times before nearly throwing my PSP against the wall.

I'm just annoyed because I know that I *could* beat this battle if I spent another five hours gaining money and skills necessary to do so. I just really don't have the patience.

Why the hell couldn't they just have battles give you money automatically like Final Fantasy Tactics did? I am so freaking annoyed right now.

edited 18th Mar '11 8:47:44 AM by Cidolfas

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#139: Mar 18th 2011 at 9:49:22 AM

[up][up]There is one for each magical element, and a Hydra(which is non-elemental).

[up]Why not just sell all your old armor and weapons?

I didn't think it was possible to actually run out of money in this game.

Also, do you have items in your inventory called Copper/Bronze/Silver/Gold Oberyth? Because those should always be sold.

Umbran Climax
Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#140: Mar 18th 2011 at 11:41:54 AM

Yes, I always sell them, and I'm still broke.

I don't sell my old armor, because inevitably I have low-level classes that I end up having to level up, and I just have to go back and buy it again otherwise. I sell everything else. I've had plenty of battles in which I get almost no spoils at all, just a lousy buckler or something (particularly those involving undead, considering I have only one cleric with Exorcise).

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#141: Mar 18th 2011 at 12:05:14 PM

Really? If you're on chapter 3 you should be getting a good amount of free equips as loot.

Unless you're letting enemies pick it up before you finish the battle.

Umbran Climax
Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#142: Mar 18th 2011 at 12:52:03 PM

I don't "let" them do anything, and they don't pick it up that often (when they do it's insanely annoying - why on earth would they allow that?) And every so often I'll get a decent piece of equipment, like a Baldur Armor. But almost never a decent weapon, and generally no more than one or two pieces per baggie (if that). Every three or four battles I'll get some cash but rarely more than 3-4000 worth.

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#143: Mar 18th 2011 at 1:51:37 PM

Have you gone to the Wildwood?

It gains new areas in every subsequent chapter.

edited 18th Mar '11 1:51:42 PM by JotunofBoredom

Umbran Climax
CEOIII C-E-O-3, H-N-I-C from Franklin, PA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
C-E-O-3, H-N-I-C
#144: Mar 19th 2011 at 2:07:34 AM

Jotun: So I got one more Dragon to get. *evil grin*

Cid: I keep reading your posts, hoping I'll see something you're doing wrong, but so far nada. I will say that recruiting monsters just to auction them off is more trouble than it's worth; you'll only get 3k goth or so per beastie. And healing magic is much cheaper than healing items; you wanna conserve goth, start tossing spells at your wounded.

I'm Charlie Owens, good night and good luck. PSNID: CEOIII 1117
Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#145: Mar 21st 2011 at 7:06:15 AM

Yes, I've gone to the Wildwood twice so far. First time I got murdered by dragons, second time I went the other route as far as I could go.

The problem with healing magic is: 1) Have to wait for MP to rise up, or waste turns using MP-restoring items; 2) the strongest healing spell I have heals for 60 HP, when my characters have upwards of 200 HP now, and buyable items heal for 125.

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#146: Mar 21st 2011 at 7:34:15 AM

Mother's Blessing is an active skill that doubles the effectiveness of healing magic(it requires 40 or 50 TP though).

Also healing magic has a better range than healing items, even with a lobber.

As for magic restoration items, always use them on your first few turns. It's not as if you'll be casting any healing spells at the beginning of a battle anyway.

edited 21st Mar '11 7:35:28 AM by JotunofBoredom

Umbran Climax
Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#147: Mar 21st 2011 at 1:39:53 PM

Still, my healers only have about 80 MP, which is good for two Heal II spells at 60 HP a pop. In the middle of battle I'll have to waste more MP-restoring items to keep them useful; I can't just pop MP-restoring items at the beginning and have it effective through the battle.

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#148: Mar 21st 2011 at 2:12:37 PM

[up]Magic Leaf +2(75 MP) lasts a long time since you are still recharging magic every turn(around 5 to 10 points per turn). There is also a skill that slightly increases the amount of magic regained every turn.

Too bad Clerics can't learn Meditate, though.

Umbran Climax
CEOIII C-E-O-3, H-N-I-C from Franklin, PA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
C-E-O-3, H-N-I-C
#149: Mar 21st 2011 at 11:47:49 PM

Can't learn it or use it. But there are some skills helpful to some classes that they can't learn but can use. Dragoons can use tame, for example, but they can't learn it. Helpful for collecting and auctioning off dragons for..........but perhaps I've said too much. *evil grin*

I'm Charlie Owens, good night and good luck. PSNID: CEOIII 1117

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