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This is a thread where, as the title implies, our avatars (from our galleries) are posting in an in-universe forum thread. You can drop in any time with pretty much any character you want, whether from existing works or your own OCs. Though most of it is done through forum posts, some "in-person" interactions between characters is also fine.

Even if this is a more casual RP, there are still some rules and general RP etiquette to keep in mind for everyone to have a good time and feel comfortable:

  • NO GODMODDING. Godmodding is when you decide what happens to another player's character, and is generally frowned upon. In particular, avoid injuring and especially killing someone else's character; fighting is ok but let the other player decide if the hit connects. If your plot idea requires something to happen to a different player's character, you'll want to privately discuss this with them and if they're ok with that. This includes in-universe moderation.
  • Be nice and respect other players' boundaries. Your character being mean or a jerk is one thing, but if someone gets uncomfortable about your behavior towards their characters, knock it off. Also do not force others into your story arcs; in general it would be a good idea to ask the other person first if they are interested, and plan it together if they are.
  • If you have anything to say, ask about, ect. that is not part of the RP, you can put it under a spoiler tag [[spoiler: like this]]
  • While almost any character is welcome, please avoid playing any real-life person who's mainly associated with controversies, drama and problematic behavior. We don't need that here.
  • Have fun!

    Original post 

Ahh, console video games (or vidcons as I call them). the ultimate medium of expression, able to convey any emotion ranging from hatred to love, loyalty to fear, all in front of our eyes. Ah, and with lovingly crafted art, music, and the ability to control the action, vidcons are the ultimate combination of the high arts. While I tend to play the stoic, I will be the first to admit that vidcons haven driven me to cry, to scream and shout, to feel actual hate; such is the power of this force beyond our wildest reckoning. And here I am, before you, to temp your tongues with the taint of such a tantalizing topic.

And the Japanese, the true geniuses behind the world of video games. Pah, I throw my scorn upon such incompetents of the West who would mock the true art of the Japanese with 'games' such as Baldur's Gate and Madden. Perhaps it is that the West is not as intelligent as the East, but this is a matter for another day. Japan has given us such masterpieces as the Final Fantasy series, Star Ocean, Wild Arms, and of course, Arc the Lad. Yes, some of the finest vidcons in the world were created by Japanese. I come to you today to ask you in all earnesty, what is your favorite vidcon? I will reveal mine after the grand debate has illustriously begun, but not before the first poster falls victim to my plot of discussion.

In other words, this is a thread on an imaginary forum our avatars frequent. The topic can fluctuate, and its mostly just general discussion.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Sep 2nd 2025 at 7:38:57 AM

Myskywarm Always open to sharing avatars and chatting. Can message me for either. (He/Him) Currently watching: BTAS from Ee-arth (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Always open to sharing avatars and chatting. Can message me for either. (He/Him) Currently watching: BTAS
#213476: Aug 1st 2025 at 11:18:06 PM

oaiM_awgaS Tome: No prob, no prob! Hope it helps the person!

Rex: She totally knows, right?

Noah: I will smack you if you say something.

Ratatoskr Tome: I still think boss knows about this kinda thing more than me. I mean I can confidently say I'm good but still learning.

Noah: How'd he know if he never got a girlfriend himself?

Rex: Reigen's old. So.

Anne: Evening. ...Love?

Tome: Love.

Protection and power are overrated. I think you are very wise to choose happiness and love. Current avatar: Connie
oaiM_awgaS The Soft-Souled, Fluffy-Furred School Idol from Nijigasaki High (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
The Soft-Souled, Fluffy-Furred School Idol
#213477: Aug 1st 2025 at 11:21:38 PM

     I'm tired and can't think of a title 

Luea: "Ohh, yeah I can get you a towel."

(As she walks into the bathroom to grab one, she ponders about what she saw)

" Hmmmm, her eyes didn't seem to be tarnished or cracked like I thought they'd be. Then again, maybe the impurity is on her Charm form. Regardless, I should probably keep that to myself."

(she returns carrying a soft white towel)

Luea: "Here you are, Talc-san. I hope it meets your standards. since i dont really have any different types of towels to use"

had to crank one more out, alright g'night for real

"The dream of tomorrow and the sky of today, expanding in unison"
Zanreo Gizmondo from Glitch City (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Gizmondo
#213478: Aug 1st 2025 at 11:38:39 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bbzchibi.png [1] Yeah, basically!

My favorite failed console tbh
Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#213479: Aug 2nd 2025 at 12:03:09 AM

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/images8_7.jpg Ahe-he-hem Hello, dear internet fr- oh. Empty, again.

You need blood and he's got more than enough!
Ratatoskr Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory... from Yggdrasil (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory...
#213480: Aug 2nd 2025 at 12:42:19 AM

Myskywarm Gang

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_character_shizuku_love_live.png Hello, Anne-san! Yes, we are discussing love.

As for me... while, of course, I have a lovely girlfriend, I admittedly am nonetheless not very experienced. Kasumi-chan's my First Love, and I can't say I've ever dealt with a relationship issue this complex. Let's hope this can be resolved in a way that isn't too messy...

Bonus Boss Z

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_character_the_monk_rain_world.png oh, alright!!! combat isn't really an interest of mine, but i respect your interest in it!!!

Edwin

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_character_shizuku_love_live.png No need to worry, sir. Things aren't entirely empty, even if they've quieted down.


    Throwing In The Towel 

   "Oh, no, i-it's, um, fine."   

(Gingerly- but then again, what doesn't Talc do gingerly -Talc takes the towel.)

   "I-it's... very fluffy."   

(Talc stares at it for a moment, seemingly entranced by its softness, before blinking.)    "O-oh, right, m-my goggles."   

(Carefully and quiet, it cleans the fog off its goggles, until they look clean and shiny. Once its satisfied with their cleanness, it- after a moment of hesitation- puts them back on.)

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/talc_goggled_version.png

   "S-sorry... that was really awkward, wasn't it?"   

AITA for telling slanderous gossip and provoking the eagle and Nidhogg?
Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#213481: Aug 2nd 2025 at 12:46:34 AM

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/images8_7.jpg Oh, hello! How are you this fine evening?

You need blood and he's got more than enough!
Ratatoskr Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory... from Yggdrasil (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory...
#213482: Aug 2nd 2025 at 12:47:58 AM

Edwin

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_character_shizuku_love_live.png I've been doing well, sir! Are you some kind of knight?

AITA for telling slanderous gossip and provoking the eagle and Nidhogg?
Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#213483: Aug 2nd 2025 at 12:52:18 AM

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_20250721_201437_firefox.jpg Not exactly, miss.

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/images8_7.jpg GYA- DO YOU MIND?? Are you doing this on purpose? Hmph, anyway, I am perfectly capable of answering myself. No, I am not a knight. I am a scholar. I...may not look like one in my current state, granted, but that is what I am.

You need blood and he's got more than enough!
pizzastropes180 Charlie Disco from your wallet (Season 2) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Charlie Disco
#213484: Aug 2nd 2025 at 12:52:18 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_2025_05_30_195538969.png BWEKH!! Hello!

...So I got an aloe vera stuck in my paw, and after they got it out I had to rest my hands for a couple of weeks..

"And for one night only...you can get your revenge."
completelynormal learning how to love from Love Live! Nijigasaki High School Idol Club Since: May, 2024 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
learning how to love
#213485: Aug 2nd 2025 at 12:57:10 AM

    pickle burgers and a retro(e) mindset 

   what if shes still here in this train hiding waiting to haunt me waiting to hurt me for my mistakes now that we share a physical world shes here shell find me call me a coward i am a coward a worthless pathetic coward coward coward coward coward co—   

I have your pickles, mon ami, Roe〜! Just pickles isn't really a full meal, so I just made you a burger with lots of pickles~! It's amazing that my fridge can be stocked with absolutely anyth—

Ophelia stopped in her tracks when she saw Retroe.

Still surrounded by those glowing, holographic screens, still surrounded with those Forum posts with words too far away to her to make out.....but they seemed to be crushing him as xe lifted up hir robe to look at a deep, long, red cut on his stomach.

.....m-mon dieu...is that how you.....?

Retroe threw his robe back over hir stomach, staring at Ophelia in horror.

   drop the food and leave....don't....l-look....p-please...   

....

....no.

Ophelia remembered what xe said before about hir death.

"They didn't accept me. They saw me, and were disgusted. They all were. I made this body to escape, I went to it so I could escape, and they were disgusted."

....what Retroe needed was for someone to not be....disgusted.

She ran to hir, sat the food down beside hir, kneeled down to hir level, and hugged him tightly.

I'm looking, cher. And I don't hate what I see.

   ........   

The screens surrounding him started to press down closer as Ophelia hugged him...the closer they got, the more xe trembled. Like they were hurting hir.

Ophelia decided to take a closer look at these posts.

"Fish boy here won't admit that impersonating dead people and stealing their wives is a bad thing."

"I'd really like to cave in your face now, y'know?"

"I just don't really like rude people like Roe. The kind of people that refuse to listen and are stubborn as hell."

"I'M SICK OF THIS! I feel like Roe is trying to trick us, just like what he did with Lolip!"

"Do you want to cause a second emotional fallout by leaving, just like Rui? GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF!"

"I'd watch you kick Roe's ass."

"Hey, your name's Roe, right? Your hypothetical child seems pretty suicidal, they're here right next to me, and they keep telling me that they don't want to be reborn."

"Let. Rui. REST."

"Heh....Roe...? Close friends listen to each other, so can you listen to me? If you delete your account, you won't be able to see me anymore."

"I'm deleting my account. Go fuck yourself, Roe."

   I JUST WANTED TO—   

   ....just.....wanted....to....   

   ....t-to make....everyone....h-happy again....   

   ...ahaha...~   

   ...aha....ha....   

....this room, it's...h-hurting him...I have to get him out of here—

Retroe closed hir tearstained eyes.

He hoped that this time, they wouldn't have to open again.

Unfortunately, they did.

Xe was in an unfamilar bed.

...are you feeling a bit better, Roe?

   .....   

   ....no   

   you hate it don't you find it annoying it's gotten old to you already i've gotten old to you already you shouldn't have to take care of me no one should have to....tell the truth you'd be happier if i was gone...everyone would be...   

Ophelia took hir hand.

You don't need permission to live. From anyone.

   .....   

   ...there's no reason to keep living if everyone hates me   

You say "everyone" too much, mon ami. There will always be people with differing opinions. The whole world isn't against you. You just need to find the people who love you for who you are.

   .........who could love this   

Many people! But I can only speak for myself...and I could.

Do you want to be friends~?

   ...wh-what....? you....you saw the posts...you saw.....you saw what people think of me when they get to know me...   

I'd rather make my own opinion about you!

Ophelia tilted her head and grinned at Retroe.

...xe knew it was too good to be true. That it would be like Sho and Reiyana, that she would secretly hate hir.

He hated that xe wanted to believe her.

   ......   

   .......do what you want. or something.   

Ophelia beamed with delight. Retroe cringed inside.

OUI〜!

   ....n-now leave me alone.   

Not until you eat your food. I spent all evening making that for you, and I'm not having you take one bite and hide under the sofa like you did last time!

   ....i asked for a pickle   

A single pickle is not a meal, Roe.

   i've eaten less in a day and been fine...plus it's not like we'll starve and die again...   

...mon dieu, il est comme Taka quand il écrit un document de recherche... I'm not leaving until you eat it. All of it.

   ....five bites.   

All.

   ...half.   

All of it.

   ....th-three quarters~?   

YOU WILL NOT LEAVE A SINGLE CRUMB, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT.

   ....   

   ....fine.   

yes i spent an hour chronicling mean things people said to roe in november for this post, no i will not reveal any of their original posters, yes if you look you WILL find all of them, goodbye

"Every time I look, they all seem to multiply / The scΛrƨ that run my mind"
Ratatoskr Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory... from Yggdrasil (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory...
#213486: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:02:56 AM
pizzastropes180 Charlie Disco from your wallet (Season 2) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Charlie Disco
#213487: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:06:37 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_2025_05_30_195538969.png B-but I'm Wild- I MEAN- I'm doing okay now! So...that's good!

"And for one night only...you can get your revenge."
Ratatoskr Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory... from Yggdrasil (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory...
#213488: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:12:29 AM

Wildflower

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_scrapped_design_sweet_treat_you_made_me_fall_in_love.png y-yeah... i-i'm just glad you're okay, really. i got... embarrassingly worried about you, even though they were just aloe vera cuts.

AITA for telling slanderous gossip and provoking the eagle and Nidhogg?
Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#213489: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:13:44 AM

1 Somewhere ND is shouting lol

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/images8_7.jpg 2 "Bad blood", hmph. I simply find his manner rather high-minded and presumptuous, given the difference in our stations. If I were vindictive I would also question the justice in the difference in severity of the curses which afflict us. But I'm not, so I won't.

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_20250721_201437_firefox.jpg ...Oh, aye, very good. Poor you, eh? Like this isn't mostly your fault in the first place... Erm, I suppose so, miss. It's...a very old argument, put it that way.

Edited by Murataku on Aug 2nd 2025 at 6:14:36 PM

You need blood and he's got more than enough!
pizzastropes180 Charlie Disco from your wallet (Season 2) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Charlie Disco
#213490: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:17:49 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_2025_05_30_195538969.png [up][up] Mnnh but I was kinda scared toooo...

"And for one night only...you can get your revenge."
Ratatoskr Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory... from Yggdrasil (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory...
#213491: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:19:09 AM

Edwin and William

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_character_shizuku_love_live.png ...you two keep telling yourselves that.

I can gather that, sir... perhaps a change in topic would do us good?

Wildflower

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_scrapped_design_sweet_treat_you_made_me_fall_in_love.png y-yeah, but- i was more scared, okay?!

AITA for telling slanderous gossip and provoking the eagle and Nidhogg?
Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#213492: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:23:00 AM

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_20250721_201437_firefox.jpg Aye, maybe. Sorry, I don't know your name, miss. And, erm, no need to call me "sir". My name will work just fine. Ah, but you're free to call me as you like. I don't really mind.

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/images8_7.jpg Hmph, I'm sure I've no idea what you mean, young lady... Ah, very well. What would you like to talk about?

You need blood and he's got more than enough!
pizzastropes180 Charlie Disco from your wallet (Season 2) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Charlie Disco
#213493: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:29:12 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_2025_05_30_195538969.png [up][up] I know- I know...

But I got to choose my own bandaids!

"And for one night only...you can get your revenge."
Ratatoskr Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory... from Yggdrasil (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory...
#213494: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:31:47 AM

William and Edwin

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_character_shizuku_love_live.png Oh, my apologies. I'm Shizuku Osaka; what are your names?

And, hm... maybe we could discuss... theatre? Recently, I got to play Nora Helmer in a production of A Doll's House. Certainly a fascinating play! Did you know that the story of that play was meant to be a subversion of the well-made play, a type of play that was very cliche in the 19th century? It is somewhat tragic that, due to the death of this subgenre, this layer of the player doesn't translate at all to modern times...

(Poor Shizuku doesn't realize that a pair of cursed servants probably have no familiarity with Norwegian plays.)

Wildflower

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_scrapped_design_sweet_treat_you_made_me_fall_in_love.png ...i-i really liked the band-aids you picked out. th-they were cute.

AITA for telling slanderous gossip and provoking the eagle and Nidhogg?
pizzastropes180 Charlie Disco from your wallet (Season 2) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Charlie Disco
#213495: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:38:32 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_2025_05_30_195538969.png Mmmn...I picked the fish ones because..t-they reminded me of your hairpin.

shizukus just discussing theatre with people who probably know the bare minimum of it while spicy treat and wildflower are just. being spicy treat and wildflower. i love this forum lol

"And for one night only...you can get your revenge."
Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#213496: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:40:32 AM

Pffft these men are from 1100s Scotland lol

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/images8_7.jpg 1 ...Oh! Oh yes, the theatre, yes, yes, I know it well. I was a frequent patron of the arts in my time, of course. Say a play practically every other week! And that one is a particularfavourite of mine, obviously.

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_20250721_201437_firefox.jpg I'm sorry, miss. I'm not familiar.

Pfft, to nobody's surprise.

Edwin is full of shit, btw. He's never heard of the play in his life, nor has he ecer seen a play ever.

Edited by Murataku on Aug 2nd 2025 at 6:41:48 PM

You need blood and he's got more than enough!
Ratatoskr Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory... from Yggdrasil (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory...
#213497: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:43:25 AM

Edwin and William

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_character_shizuku_love_live.png Wait- you've watched it?! It's lovely to be in the company of a fellow theatre enthusiast!

Truly, A Doll's House is one of the most innovative plays of its time! So much of it has stayed surprisingly topical with the passage of time.

(Oh god poor girl's oblivious-)

Wildflower

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_scrapped_design_sweet_treat_you_made_me_fall_in_love.png r-really?

AITA for telling slanderous gossip and provoking the eagle and Nidhogg?
pizzastropes180 Charlie Disco from your wallet (Season 2) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Charlie Disco
#213498: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:45:04 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_2025_05_30_195538969.png M-mhm. It's like in a way your helping the wounds heal!

"And for one night only...you can get your revenge."
Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#213499: Aug 2nd 2025 at 1:51:39 AM

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/images8_7.jpg 1 E-Erm, yes, of course, yes, it's still incredibly topical, obviously, still so relevent to the, the erm...the issues of this age. S-Such as, erm...McTaggart?

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_20250721_201437_firefox.jpg ...I wouldn't know. As I said, I've not seen it.

Traitor! Sneak! Erm, well, there are just too many ways it remains relevant to even list!

Due to the differences in their curses, while McTaggart has been active this whole time, Edwin spent a good deal of the centuries since being cursed in a shoebox, more or less asleep. He is therefore bullshitting about the play AND about topical events lol

Edited by Murataku on Aug 2nd 2025 at 6:52:20 PM

You need blood and he's got more than enough!
Ratatoskr Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory... from Yggdrasil (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Feast your eyes on that limp Hand of Glory...
#213500: Aug 2nd 2025 at 2:03:09 AM

Wildflower

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_scrapped_design_sweet_treat_you_made_me_fall_in_love.png that's... really sweet.

th-thank you.

Edwin and William

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/100/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hit_character_shizuku_love_live.png You're being... awfully vague about this.

But, yes! The messages it tells about misogyny are still relevant in this day and age!

(EDWIN NOOOOOOOOOOOO SHE'S COTTONING ON)

AITA for telling slanderous gossip and provoking the eagle and Nidhogg?

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