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ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:26:22 PM

A horde of people on the Two Roads Before You Image Pickin' discussion agreed that the current image for this isn't any good.

edited 25th Jan '11 5:26:36 PM by ThePope

AngryScientist Nostalgia from Russia with Love Since: Nov, 2009
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#2: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:27:42 PM

And so have many others before them. We've had...four(?) threads on this already. I don't think it's getting changed any time soon.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#3: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:27:52 PM

Laconic is "Your monster parts are cute!" Maybe something without wings at all? Like someone saying they like Hellboy's horns, or something.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
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#4: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:28:14 PM

It shows the trope. It's got a girl with wings. She thinks they're ugly. Someone else tells her they're beautiful. Full trope. What else is there to show? None of the other suggestions we've gotten have shown the person thinking they're deformity was ugly and someone else thinking they're lovely.

edited 25th Jan '11 5:29:05 PM by shimaspawn

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#5: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:28:34 PM

This relies so much on text that if we can't do better, we should really just remove the image and make it a quote.

edited 25th Jan '11 5:29:12 PM by INUH

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#6: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:28:40 PM

That is a lot of words for a very short message.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#7: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:51:59 PM

It was chosen after lengthy discussion in Image Pickin', for what it's worth (which doesn't seem to be a whole lot.)

edited 25th Jan '11 5:52:20 PM by suedenim

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#8: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:04:23 PM

I always thought something like this would be perfect not suggesting this as is though its rather long it can be cut down I think maybe 1,2,4 or 1,3,4?

[1] [2] [3] [4]

edited 25th Jan '11 7:14:57 PM by Raso

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#9: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:06:09 PM

Only the first half of that is needed to get the point across.

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#10: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:14:03 PM

The Negima example was the first thing that came to mind, but I don't really have a problem with the current image, especially if it was chosen in a previous thread.

edited 25th Jan '11 6:15:34 PM by Willbyr

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#11: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:16:11 PM

One of the things a page image is supposed to do is help the clarity of the article, right? But that one doesn't. For one thing, it's too wordy, and the graphical part doesn't really add much (if anything) to the word part. For another, the title, image, and two quotes all say "wings", but the trope is broader than that. I think a better image would depict something other than wings.

edited 25th Jan '11 6:23:15 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#12: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:16:24 PM

The image part of the current image doesn't actually serve any purpose, except to confirm that the text's statement that she has wings is, in fact, true.

edited 25th Jan '11 6:16:38 PM by INUH

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#13: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:06:56 PM

How about this Could probably shrink it 10% or so if its too long and still stay readable (or shrink the thing and keep the Text the same size but I dont have the programs to do it)

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edited 25th Jan '11 7:14:06 PM by Raso

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#14: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:09:09 PM

I don't even think the bottom panel is necessary there. The middle frames show that she doesn't find the wings frightening or ugly or anything.

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#15: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:13:49 PM

Very true I guess you dont really need her outright stating that she thinks they are cool.

(Cleaning up above posts so it doesnt seem like I posted 10k images)

edited 25th Jan '11 7:14:29 PM by Raso

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:18:20 PM

I'm not sure about using Setsuna for this since I'm not sure we can get a good image... however, I do think it's better than the current image. It's too wordy and sounds more like she's complaining about some feature that just happens to be one that normal people don't have. It's not that she has wings, it's that they're not pretty wings. Could just as easily be her hair.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#17: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:20:13 PM

I see nothing wrong with the current image. Really.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#18: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:21:48 PM

Nor do I. I really don't like the Negima image. It's horrible quality and it took me about a minute to figure out that there was something strange about her because they don't really look like wings or anything at all honestly. Just part of some Funny Background Event.

edited 25th Jan '11 7:22:30 PM by shimaspawn

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#19: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:22:02 PM

^ ^^Well, for starters, as I said earlier, the fact that it's an image adds nothing to the massive quantities of text you have to read to get it.

edited 25th Jan '11 7:22:22 PM by INUH

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#20: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:23:34 PM

It's still better than the current image, which is way too wordy.

We might be able to find a better 2nd panel, though. The current one is ok, but it would be better see the wings more clearly.

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#21: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:24:41 PM

Since when has "a single comic book panel" become "massive Wall of Text"? Seriously, if that's going to be a new standard, let's at least codify it so I'll know to stop wasting my time.

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#22: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:24:50 PM

And a better quality first panel. Horrible scan quality makes things really hard to read for those of us with less than perfect vision. I have a really hard time reading anything with that much junk around the letters. High contrast like the current image works better.

edited 25th Jan '11 7:26:19 PM by shimaspawn

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#23: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:28:31 PM

^^It's more the fact that there is nothing in the image that is not in the text. The current page image is really not an image, but a quote displayed at 350x426 pixels.

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#24: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:33:31 PM

[1] [2] Here are the two pages if anyone thinks they can do better with it go for it. (The bottom left hand corner panel of the first page is probably better at her lamenting)

edited 25th Jan '11 7:39:39 PM by Raso

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#25: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:44:20 PM

In the words of Fast Eddie. Clear > Concise > Witty. The image is a clear representation of the trope. Thus, there is nothing wrong with it.

Also: Massive walls of text? Really? There are 6 sentences and a few ellipses. You're acting like it's a Subnormality comic.


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