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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#501: Sep 23rd 2014 at 5:04:19 AM

Female Party Members in the Final Fantasy series:

  • FFI: Only classes.
  • FFII: 2 out of 8.
  • FFIII: Onion Kids/1 out of 4.
  • FFIV: 3 out of 12.
  • FFIVAY: 9 out of 22.
  • FFV: 3 out of 5.
  • FFVI: 3 out of 14(4 if you count Gogo).
  • FFVII: 3 out of 9.
  • FFVIICC: 0 out of 1.
  • FFVIII: 3 out of 6.
  • FFIX: 3 out of 8(4 if you count Quina).
  • FFX: 3 out of 7.
  • FFX-2: 3 out of 3.
  • FFXI: Player Choice.
  • FFXII: 3 out of 6.
  • FFXIII: 3 out of 6.
  • FFXIII-2: 1 out of 2(2 out of 4 counting DLC and the intro but not the monsters).
  • LRFFXIII: 1 out of 1(+1 when in the Dead Dunes).
  • FFXIVARR: Player Choice.
  • FFXV: 0 out of 5(thus far).

Edit: The Journey and Friendship has always been a big part of FF.

edited 23rd Sep '14 5:12:13 AM by LordofLore

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#502: Sep 23rd 2014 at 5:20:06 AM

Bleh. Not only a sausage party, but a samey sausage party that are already friends. Character diversity went down the drain.

My reasons to purchase a next-gen console have gone down dramatically.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#503: Sep 23rd 2014 at 5:25:59 AM

Yeah, I feel the same. I'm happy that I won a PS 4 because XV is really not selling me on the thought of buying one.

Nysos Catatologist from Australia Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#504: Sep 23rd 2014 at 5:36:26 AM

So there's been two games already where you can only play as female party members, and now we're getting one game where there's only male party members. Seems fine to me. The genders of the characters don't really matter though, we'll have to wait and see if they have interesting personalities/character traits. I rather like the restrained character designs though, the previous games were getting way too crazy with over the top costumes and outfits.

The Journey and Friendship has always been a big part of FF.

Okay, that's true. But the road trip angle is something new to the series.

edited 23rd Sep '14 5:55:11 AM by Nysos

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Renewal PKMN Trainer Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#505: Sep 23rd 2014 at 6:18:01 AM

Yeah, the key difference is how relaxed the journey seems to be. More often than not, it's a high stakes sort of thing: fighting the Empire, AVALANCHE on the run from Shinra, Yuna's pilgrimage, the l'Cie trying to deal with their focus, etc. If it's really just a straightforward, friendly road trip for a significant part of the story, it'll definitely be an interesting dynamic for the series to explore.

Of course since it's Final Fantasy, the stake'll climb well before the end, but still.

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#506: Sep 23rd 2014 at 6:39:38 AM

Yeah, on the scale of Dramatic Shit v Noctis & Friends and Their Personal Journey, this seems to be focusing more on Noctis & friends and personal journey. Not that the dramatic shit won't be important or skyrocket exponentially like Renewal said, but Noctis & Friends (we need a nickname for them) are the most important thing.

Like how FMA '03 was about Edward and Alphonse themselves, whereas Mangahood was about the more general people of Amestris (and Xing) coming together to create a better world. If I worded that in a way that makes sense.

edited 23rd Sep '14 7:16:57 AM by TheAirman

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#507: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:15:13 AM

Well, this particular quote doesn't sound very reassuring...

"With the hardware specifications of the newer consoles, it's possible to set it up so you have different enemies and different choices of attacks you can enter in, but I want to simplify that. It'll basically be a one-button action, and the AI intuitively outputs an action that kind of satisfies, gives you that instant gratification, and it connects with the simple touch of a button.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#508: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:20:03 AM

So Auto-Battle but worse since Auto-Battle was optional and only used the information you already knew about the enemy in XIII and XIII-2? Or do I understand the quote wrong?

edited 23rd Sep '14 7:20:56 AM by LordofLore

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#509: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:22:47 AM

I don't know how anyone could get a relaxed journey vibe from what we've seen so far. The footage has always been chaotic, urban areas in a full-scale invasion situation. Combined with Shimomura's epic-sounding score, the game seems anything but relaxed. It has a melancholic vibe at times, but there's nothing relaxing about it. In fact, it's very high on "dramatic shit".

edited 23rd Sep '14 7:23:46 AM by lu127

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#510: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:24:51 AM

[up][up]That's what it sounds like to me.

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Nysos Catatologist from Australia Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#511: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:32:11 AM

They're pretty laid-back in the driving scenes, though. Even the fights out in the wilderness come across as fun roughhousing rather than a desperate struggle.

edited 23rd Sep '14 7:32:46 AM by Nysos

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Renewal PKMN Trainer Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#512: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:36:28 AM

[up][up][up] Yeah, the latest trailer featured a lot of pretty relaxed driving sequences with sweeping vistas of the gorgeous overworld, and the party just chatting and taking in the sights. Since FFXV is going to be a helluva lot more open than XIII, chances are there's going to be a lot of said sequences as you travel everywhere. That's why we're wondering how long that's going to last.

edited 23rd Sep '14 7:36:56 AM by Renewal

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#513: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:42:46 AM

I'm not sure how this is any different than every other JRPG party chatting when they come across an interesting area. It seems entirely basic and the game's stakes are definitely high.

[up][up][up] That's just weird. Type-0 was already pretty clunky and only gave you two moves outside of your regular attack button. And you had the option to automatically avoid any enemy attack with zero input. How do you make that even more streamlined? Hell, type-0's AI was a travesty. It was absolutely awful, while XIII's auto-battle could easily clear the game.

edited 23rd Sep '14 7:45:40 AM by lu127

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#514: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:47:44 AM

From interviews and such it seems like there will be an attack button, a defense button, magic button, run/roll button and such. Depending on your timing, location, setup (that appears to be a cross between XII-gambit system combined with Birth By Sleep) will determine exactly what the buttons will do when you press it.

He seemed to stress that timing is important and button mashing ala Dynasty Warriors would be bad and the menu is always available to switch out gambits and give direct orders.

edited 23rd Sep '14 7:48:25 AM by Memers

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#515: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:51:47 AM

I'm not sure how this is any different than every other JRPG party chatting when they come across an interesting area. It seems entirely basic and the game's stakes are definitely high.

Might have something to do with the setting and overall tone of the game. At times it almost feels like a group of IRL friends on a road trip, similar to what you'd see in a movie or something. not sure how to explain it any other way.

Renewal PKMN Trainer Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#516: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:56:44 AM

I'd say the ultimate factor for me is definitely the car. It's just so out of genre for Final Fantasy that it makes things feels a lot more relaxed and ordinary, rather than epic. But we are seeing everything out of context, so who knows?

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#517: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:58:07 AM

The last car in FF was Sazh's eidolon, right? That was a cool car.

Nysos Catatologist from Australia Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#518: Sep 23rd 2014 at 8:02:04 AM

Plus the clothes. The four main dudes wouldn't look out of place walking down the streets of Shibuya.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#519: Sep 23rd 2014 at 8:08:57 AM

So real

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#521: Sep 23rd 2014 at 9:38:58 AM

Personally I don't get what's so bad about having no female party members. I don't think its going to change the game much if there are female members or not.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#522: Sep 23rd 2014 at 10:45:38 AM

A Final Fantasy game about Bromance?

Yeah, Square is going full in pandering to Yaoi Fangirls. tongue

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#523: Sep 23rd 2014 at 10:57:28 AM

all i care about is whether the characters are good or not, honestly. would it be nice to have a more diverse cast? possibly. but it's not like a story about male bonding is inherently bad, just not everyone's cup of tea.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#524: Sep 23rd 2014 at 11:01:24 AM

I'm curious, is Square actually getting any sexism accusations over this?

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#525: Sep 23rd 2014 at 12:07:03 PM

I don't think its going to change the game much if there are female members or not.

More diverse cast = more possibilities for more diverse interactions. And not just women either. Older or younger characters, hybrids, non-humans, etc. This one's far too incestuous for my tastes. Not helped by how their clothing just blends in.

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