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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17976: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:51:26 AM

"For example, getting the US bogged down in the middle east as a way to hurt their economy was the ultimate aim of 9/11, rather than the act itself."

Heh, the one long term idea they ever had. It wasn't a terrible idea, but the implementation hasn't been very good.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#17977: Sep 21st 2013 at 6:08:00 AM

[up][up] ... So what is it that he really meant to say, then?

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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#17978: Sep 21st 2013 at 7:51:40 AM

@towns being "captured by the Islamist opposition - from the secular opposition."

goddamit. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOING THE OTHER WAY.

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17979: Sep 21st 2013 at 8:24:35 AM

No it isnt, that would make the seculars no better than the Jihadis. What should be happening is every rebel faction be working together toward their common goal.

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#17980: Sep 21st 2013 at 8:33:46 AM

What should be happening is every rebel faction be working together toward their common goal.

But do the rebel factions have a common goal, beside removing Assad?

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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#17981: Sep 21st 2013 at 8:47:11 AM

[up][up] Given the secularists arn't executing Christians just because, I'd have to say fuck no the secularists ARE better.

[up] Nope. Jihaddists want another shaira murder-state, secularists vary but generally want some form of democracy.

edited 21st Sep '13 8:47:53 AM by Joesolo

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17982: Sep 21st 2013 at 9:02:45 AM

I dont know which side, if any, actually behaves better or has committed fewer atrocities. It's a pretty mixed up situation over there.

Other than removing Assad, it would be idea if they could all agree to institute a democracy.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#17983: Sep 21st 2013 at 2:17:12 PM

Tunisian Women Go on ‘Sex Jihad’ to Syria.

Egyptian Islamists lose second town to government troops

edited 21st Sep '13 2:23:41 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#17984: Sep 21st 2013 at 2:59:17 PM

@Marq - Hell if I know.

[up][up]But since they won't, a better idea is to simply keep them apart.

edited 21st Sep '13 2:59:57 PM by FFShinra

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#17985: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:21:43 PM

Tunisian Women Go on ‘Sex Jihad’ to Syria.
... What. The. Fuck.

Some hardline jihadists consider the practice a legitimate complement to Holy War.
<insert stream of unintelligible Angrish here>

edited 21st Sep '13 3:22:34 PM by MarqFJA

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#17986: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:24:34 PM

The Arabic term (jihad al-nikah) describes a phenomenon, evident in other Arab countries as well, of women traveling to the battlefield to provide comfort—and sexual favors—for the rebel fighters. Some hardline jihadists consider the practice a legitimate complement to Holy War.

Well that's fucked up. How bizarre and unsettling.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#17987: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:27:47 PM

To say the least.

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soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#17988: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:41:36 PM

It's especially disconcerting considering how we typically see Islam on sexuality.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#17989: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:41:39 PM

Yes, if it wasn't obvious already, there is absolutely zero basis for this "sexual jihad" thing in any credible interpretation of the Islamic Sharia.

edited 21st Sep '13 3:42:10 PM by MarqFJA

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Eclipse the Moon
#17990: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:49:38 PM

Tunisian Women Go on ‘Sex Jihad’ to Syria.

the worst part is is that the government okays this shit.

i mean, seriously.

edited 21st Sep '13 3:49:51 PM by PippingFool

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#17991: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:06:50 PM

[up]

Well they've prevented some 6,000 Tunisians from traveling to Syria. So their doing something.

Egypt farmer arrested after parading donkey with army chief’s name on it

edited 21st Sep '13 5:24:55 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#17992: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:16:39 PM

the worst part is is that the government okays this shit.
What government? Tunisia? They're trying to stop it from happening, but you can imagine how successful that is with their already numerous domestic problems in the economic, political, and security areas.

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#17993: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:20:19 PM

Yes, if it wasn't obvious already, there is absolutely zero basis for this "sexual jihad" thing in any credible interpretation of the Islamic Sharia.

On the other hand, how difficult is it to find an imam who provides an interpretation of the various writings that suits a particular desire? tongue

(Not limited to Islam, admittedly.)

edited 21st Sep '13 4:20:32 PM by Nohbody

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betaalpha betaalpha from England Since: Jan, 2001
betaalpha
#17994: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:38:19 PM

Presumably there's plenty of girls the world over who go after army guys because they're often brave, heroic, young, fit and tough. Maybe also a bit of All Girls Want Bad Boys? It's not really that weird, despite the rather sensational 'sexual jihad' motif.

edited 21st Sep '13 4:40:13 PM by betaalpha

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#17995: Sep 21st 2013 at 5:00:16 PM

Why wait for your 72 virgins?

Okay, that was in poor taste, and it is highly disturbing that women would volunteer for it. I'd have sex trafficking enforcers look into it...

soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#17996: Sep 21st 2013 at 5:17:35 PM

Good old Gen. T.J. Hooker lives on.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Eclipse the Moon
#17999: Sep 21st 2013 at 6:05:04 PM

Ah, sorry Marq. It seems that I wrongly interpreted the article .

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#18000: Sep 21st 2013 at 6:13:47 PM

what

Anyway, on Syria, I think the likeliest explanation is that Assad is invoking divide et impera. He knows that America has been forced to finally move its bloated arse and get involved, and coincidentally at the same time, the rebel factions have started Struggling Together. By doing this, he secures both American and Russian goodwill and licenses the rebels to bleed each other to death while he laughs.

And when this is all over, he can form a coalition government with the most easily-bribed secularists (as the government has said, Syria's prewar regime effectively no longer exists except for Assad himself), grant some token reforms that can be left to collect dust bunnies, and come out of this with more power than he went in with.

If this is what he's doing, then as much as I hate the guy, I've got to admire his nerve.


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