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betaalpha betaalpha from England Since: Jan, 2001
betaalpha
#4226: Apr 16th 2011 at 7:09:01 AM

They may not actually be all that inactive - it's a warzone so there's not much reporting. Also it's just good sense for NATO not to reveal much that they got up to, especially what Gaddafi's troops did that worked and what didn't, or even how many enemies they destroyed, 'cos it can all be turned into useful intel for the regime. It's frustrating for us, but there you go. We certainly hear about Gaddafi's latest atrocities - it's important information that gets everyone behind the Libyan cause, but often creates the impression that Evil Is Winning and Nato is useless.

I can't figure out how the regime can still get tanks into Misratah though. Why do they not all get blown up on their way there?

edited 16th Apr '11 7:09:20 AM by betaalpha

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#4227: Apr 16th 2011 at 7:17:15 AM

As I said, nobody knows. NATO has had several opportunities to attack, but most of the time they just fly around over the city.

Meanwhile, Al Jazeera’s Sue Turton reporting from Ajdabiya confirms that some of the rebel fighters were wearing British made body armour. “This is consistent with claims made by the government that they would provide assistance to the rebels,” she said.

All 1000 sets of body armor given to the rebels were apparently British surplus. No idea if the UK government has any more surplus armor.

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#4228: Apr 16th 2011 at 7:54:16 AM

^^^^

The name is spelled several ways. Like the G-man, it just depends on which transliteration you're going with.

I think the news focus is gonna stop covering Libya in lieu of Syria very soon. That's both good, cuz it takes a microscope off the good guys, but also bad for the same reason with the bad guys.

edited 16th Apr '11 7:56:11 AM by FFShinra

Radunkuless Radunkuless Since: Jun, 2010
Radunkuless
#4229: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:07:39 AM

according to twitter, citizens in Misrata are being burned by a "jelly like substance that sticks to skin and wont stop burning even with water" which makes me think of white phosphorus, which is really nasty stuff. But at this point I wouldn't doubt that Gaddafi would use it.

IanExMachina The Paedofinder General from Gone with the Chickens Since: Jul, 2009
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#4230: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:08:52 AM

@Colonial

That link to the transcript/audio is one of the most harrowing things I've read/heard :(

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#4231: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:09:15 AM

If Ghadaffi had access to biological weapons he would have used them by now.

Hell he probably would have nuked the entire eastern half of Libya to oblivion if he had the ability.

The guy is collecting war crimes like pokemon.

IanExMachina The Paedofinder General from Gone with the Chickens Since: Jul, 2009
The Paedofinder General
#4232: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:10:16 AM

[up]

Gaddafi Used Explosion

It's SUPER EFFECTIVE

?

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4233: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:13:16 AM

"jelly like substance that sticks to skin and wont stop burning even with water"

Napalm has those properties. White phosphorus has some of the same effects (usually with much more lethal and rapid results) but last I checked, white phosphorus wasn't a gel based incendiary.

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Radunkuless Radunkuless Since: Jun, 2010
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#4235: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:23:31 AM

I thought of white phosphorus because I remember from WWII in history, our teacher said that is would create globs almost like burning jelly. I don't know much about weapons or Napalm which is probably why I didn't think of it first

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4236: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:26:05 AM

White phosphorus creates flakes. Kind of like a super-burning ash that burns near anything it touches.

Napalm can be dispersed to create globs of jelly to burn a bigger area. Some types of incendiary artillery and bombs use this.

edited 16th Apr '11 10:26:33 AM by MajorTom

Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#4237: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:32:30 AM

I hope that the message from Misratah reaches the ears of NATO, along with the rest of the world.

"He could not know it. For it was not all a joke."
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#4238: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:42:00 AM

[up] It reached, but nothing will be done because the situation is apparently too fragile to allow any drastic options.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#4239: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:57:15 AM

Might it be said that Gaddafi has probably exceeded Hitler and Stalin in becoming the most apt example of completely blatant cartoon villainy in modern-day real life?

Number of casualties aside, at least Stalin was in the business of actually governing with a semblance of stability, and Hitler actually had ideals (albeit very misguided) he was trying to realize.

By cartoon villainy I mean For the Evulz, basically.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#4240: Apr 16th 2011 at 10:59:26 AM

Seriously, he's like reading the trope page of 0% Approval Rating like a bible.

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#4241: Apr 16th 2011 at 11:12:15 AM

Or there's a Man Behind the Man who is manipulating his utter stupidity like a puppet! tongue

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mailedbypostman Since: May, 2010
#4242: Apr 16th 2011 at 11:25:41 AM

It's a product of our modern living!!! He wants the attention!!!

Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Purveyor of Obscurity
#4243: Apr 16th 2011 at 1:38:26 PM

Huh. Update on Brega says the Revolutionaries have learned not to break an advance under fire.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apocalypse from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#4244: Apr 16th 2011 at 2:35:16 PM

That is a good lesson to learn.

The other problem with bombing targets in Mis. is that it is a built up area. With the shit storms from bombing campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan they are probably being extra cautious. You only have to miss once or twice to make a big mess even a near miss with a guided munition is nasty.

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#4246: Apr 16th 2011 at 6:40:39 PM

Damnit this operation was supposed to stall out Ghadaffi, not stall out NATO!

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4247: Apr 16th 2011 at 6:52:08 PM

I guess it proves one thing. The welfare states of Europe are not prepared for real battle anywhere.

Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#4248: Apr 16th 2011 at 6:52:56 PM

How's that UN mandate working?

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#4249: Apr 16th 2011 at 7:00:36 PM

[up][up]

What does Europe being a Welfare state have to do with war?

Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#4250: Apr 16th 2011 at 7:01:07 PM

[up]They don't have the money to buy munitions?


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