^^^Hearsay I have to admit. I claim no expertise, go with other tropers who have actually studied the books and know their stuff. I'm just about the most unreliable person on the forum when it comes to religion.
In hindsight, starting off your OP with something you're shaky on at best is a bad idea.
edited 24th Jan '11 3:39:18 PM by GameChainsaw
The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.Argh. My point was why it was a big enough issue to include in holy texts at all. But then again, if it is just a few lines here and there, did the ancients really see it as that big a deal? If not, why do we have such trouble grappling it today?
The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.Because not that many people bother to actually read or study them and resort to the time-honored tradition of saying that religion backs up their belief or that their lack of a belief in religion is superior or something.
Religion does have a history of conflict, not because of the religion itself, but because of abuse by people.
edited 24th Jan '11 3:48:41 PM by saladofstones
Well he's talking about WWII when the Chinese bomb pearl harbor and they commuted suicide by running their planes into the ship.I adventure a guess: visceral disgust upon the operation. I don't know about you guys, but despite the all the deconditioning I went through, I still find stuff like Bara weirdly, strangely, but definitely repulsive. It's... icky... I don't know how to phrase it. Which is weird, because I happen to be a Yaoi Fanboy... and funnily enough most Yaoi Fanboys are straight according to the article... so... how does that work?
'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?To be honest, a decent amount of anti-homosexuality is merely using religion as a "justification" for their own bigotry. I still suspect that it arises from fear of the unknown and different. Some people can't see anything other than people like themselves as good, which also brings arrogance and narcissism into the equation.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!@Game Chainsaw Your ignorance on the subject is quite evident; Judiasm offers two verses at best, and the New Testament offers two as well. Not against a sexuality persay, but against sodomy which is not the same thing.
To answer your question, ancient people most likely had no concept of how sexuality worked so we ought to understand their perspective.
Why is it a problem today? Because, as snailbait, people fear what they do not understand. Additionally, because people would like to control what they understand as a way to alleviate their fears.
There's no justice in the world and there never was~The same way that straight females like yuri, but find works more accurately displaying lesbianism or made to appeal to lesbians disgusting? I really have no idea and throw it into the "unusual unsolved mysteries of the human psyche" category.
edited 24th Jan '11 3:53:48 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahWe only seem "hung up" because homosexuality is one of the most fashionable things for leftists to throw in our faces at this point.
If their cause celebre was still "property is theft", we'd seem hung up on defending that.
I mean, if I could change one thing about modern sexual mores, I'd ban divorce and leave homosexuality alone. It's not that big a deal.
“Love is the eternal law whereby the universe was created and is ruled.” — St. BernardBara is manga written by gay men for other gay men to my knowledge... Yaoi is by and large made to appeal to a straight female audience though straight male oriented works do exist. I'm not sure if those fall into the yaoi category or what said works are exactly.
edited 24th Jan '11 3:55:32 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahYaranaika is Bara. This is yaoi:
Really, straight women find actual lesbian porn distateful?
We might be onto something here!
'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?I've come across a few that like the highly romanticized yuri made for males or straight women, but dislike the comics written to appeal to lesbians. Not sure if this is common enough for it to really mean anything significant, but I have come across it.
Things with butch women seem to attract this in my experience.
edited 24th Jan '11 3:57:50 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahWell, these were texts written in a time of little to no knowledge of medical treatment, where sexual excess was a vector for spreading disease that could fuck up your entire tribe — and anal sex is particularly susceptible to tearing tissue and leading to infection.
edited 24th Jan '11 3:59:09 PM by Pykrete
@Rott: so you are hating on gayness because the other side cares about it right now?? What's this, tribalism before actual issues?
Also, ban divorce? Are you insane?
edited 24th Jan '11 4:02:52 PM by RawPower
'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?Don't get him started on divorce...please...Please?
Actually I haven't emphasized this enough.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT START THIS SHIT AGAIN. I HATE IT MORE THAN ISLAM RELATED DISCUSSIONS WHICH I HATE MORE THAN ST. PAUL'S LETTERS.
edited 24th Jan '11 4:03:40 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahOkay, that is offtopic, but damn, damn near everyone agrees divorce existing is freaking vital...
'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?I'm guessing it's because, like it or not, sex was made for the topic of reproducing. I mean, even kids who don't know what sex is know that it's how 'mommy and daddy make babies'
So, I guess when you're not used to the idea of recreational sex, it can, not compute, in a way.
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People with the pack mentality need scapegoats, and homosexuals are a relatively easy target. "Whatever failings I have in my behavior, at least I'm not one of them."
edited 24th Jan '11 3:38:54 PM by UnabashedFornicator