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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#26: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:22:38 PM

I remember that topic. I thought it said women generally had lower pain tolerance, but get pumped up on an absurd amount of hormones specifically during childbirth?

SandJosieph Since: Dec, 2009
#27: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:23:24 PM

[up][up]Only when they swear, though. Myth Busters can attest to that.

edited 24th Jan '11 12:23:39 PM by SandJosieph

Wanderhome The Joke-Master Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
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#28: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:40:26 PM

@ Pykrete and AHR: Yeah, I think I recall reading something about how men have a higher standard pain tolerance (on average, of course), but women's bodies produce enough endorphins in the late stages of pregnancy to make childbirth more bearable. Of course, if I remember right, the article was on Cracked, and so best taken with a grain of salt  *

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#29: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:44:37 PM

I have a higher pain tolerance than Drunkscriblerian, but I also get ridiculous cramps during my period.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#30: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:45:31 PM

I also heard that women can tolerate blood more, due to being mentally accustomed to it, with their period. Once again, through the grape vine.

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#31: Jan 24th 2011 at 5:45:39 PM

"And, as been said above, even that applies only if we are speaking about modern Western world." - Beholderess

Does the rest of the world even count? Come on, the third world, middle east, and other such places are such a mess that problems relating to sexism are hardly among their worst problems.

snailbait bitchy queen from psych ward Since: Jul, 2010
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#32: Jan 24th 2011 at 5:52:58 PM

Neither males nor females have it better in my opinion. I've concluded that it sucks to be either due to strong gender stereotypes imposed upon both sexes.

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KCK Can I KCK it? from In your closet Since: Jul, 2010
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#33: Jan 24th 2011 at 5:54:36 PM

[up] "Better" is quite a subjective term; even so, on the whole I think men have it better, assuming we're defining better as in who has the most power.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#34: Jan 24th 2011 at 5:57:56 PM

I assume males have it better, based on media and entertainment.

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snailbait bitchy queen from psych ward Since: Jul, 2010
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#35: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:04:54 PM

^^ Well that's true. I was imagining "better" as who has it better socially as opposed to financially.

edited 24th Jan '11 6:05:25 PM by snailbait

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MostlyBenign Why so serious? Since: Mar, 2010
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#36: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:22:26 PM

Higher muscle density and all its advantages(in general, more strength, less tendancy to fat, more speed, and an easier time holding alcohol) versus pregnancy, chilbirth, periods, lactation, lower muscular development, better distance running, and more sensitive genitals.

There's no objective disadvantage to being fat apart from cultural expectations, needing less alcohol to get drunk could just as well be considered an advantage, given that getting drunk is the reason consume alcohol in the first place, and childbirth is something that people in the Western world generally do by choice.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#37: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:52:52 PM

There's higher heart strain for one.

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#38: Jan 24th 2011 at 8:41:18 PM

I have heard somewhere that women are generally expected to live longer than men.

Men do not have cramps, though. I envy the sons of bitches.

SelphieFairy Hate spinnerbait. from California Since: Mar, 2010
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#39: Jan 24th 2011 at 9:36:19 PM

both men and women experience prejudice in socially. in that case, i'd say it's about equal, though the issue of rape kind of makes me want to say women have it worse. girls simply don't go walking anywhere by themselves after dark. guys don't even think about it though. not to mention the victim-blaming and stuff. then again, there is a LOT more pressure for men to conform to gender stereotypes than women are. it's ridiculous how women will complain about how men don't like them them for being short/tall, fat, shy, etc etc, but wouldn't even bat an eye at a man that had a few those qualities or even treat him with contempt. the way women reject men in such harsh, holier-than-thou attitudes kind of disgust me sometimes.

in the working world though... men definitely have it better.

of course, there is absolutely no way of knowing for sure. you obviously can't judge this kind of thing statistically (well, i guess you could try but it would probably just be crap) so any reliable studies of it would be humanistic — which is subjective of course. so yeah, what everyone else already said. ._.

edited 24th Jan '11 9:36:48 PM by SelphieFairy

Herbarius Since: Nov, 2009
#40: Jan 24th 2011 at 9:47:12 PM

There are still countries in which women have little to no say, and I do not know about any places in which the situation is opposite. I mean, umm, just where are males regarded as second-class citizens?
Well I don't know about males being regarded as second-class cizitens, but as far as I know there are some "primitive" tribes which are matriarchial.

edited 24th Jan '11 9:47:42 PM by Herbarius

Beholderess from Moscow Since: Jun, 2010
#41: Jan 24th 2011 at 9:49:17 PM

Does the rest of the world even count? Come on, the third world, middle east, and other such places are such a mess that problems relating to sexism are hardly among their worst problems.
Ahem, if we are speaking about men a women in general, then yes, it should count. After all, the majority of population of the planet does not come from the western world.

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snailbait bitchy queen from psych ward Since: Jul, 2010
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#42: Jan 24th 2011 at 9:57:39 PM

@Selphie: About the rape thing, some men do worry about it a lot. I hang out at gay bars and stuff a lot so I always have to be careful. There are dudes out there who target young gay guys such as myself...

And in general, straight men can obviously get raped, but they probably don't think about it as much.

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SelphieFairy Hate spinnerbait. from California Since: Mar, 2010
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#43: Jan 24th 2011 at 10:01:22 PM

^oh yeah, i'm sure guys worry about it too. i've had guy friends tell me. as in straight ones. but err only when they're partying/passed out and kind of based on homophobia. -.- it's just simply not as prevalent in everyday life as it is for women. actually, i don't think women think about it much either — but it has to do with the fact that it's just become such a common part of our lives so we don't think that there is anything abnormal about it.

Well I don't know about males being regarded as second-class cizitens, but as far as I know there are some "primitive" tribes which are matriarchial.

no such thing. at least not according to modern anthropology. a true matriarch has never existed. there have been matrilinear societies where people trace their lineages through the mother's line, but no matriarchs. just a note.

edited 24th Jan '11 10:12:44 PM by SelphieFairy

jewelleddragon Also known as Katz from Pasadena, CA Since: Apr, 2009
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#44: Jan 24th 2011 at 11:16:37 PM

Come on, the third world, middle east, and other such places are such a mess that problems relating to sexism are hardly among their worst problems.

If you get your nose cut off because you shamed your family, it's among your worst problems.

Sandor from London/Cambridge Since: Oct, 2009
#45: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:54:51 AM

The one that faces entrenched systematic sexism, both on a personal and social scale.

Of the sort which would be considered beyond the pale for any other minority, even by the strongest backwards 'pc gone mad' mail reading type.

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Ettina Since: Apr, 2009
#46: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:01:25 AM

Whenever they measure pain by self-report (eg say 'stop' when it hurts, like this study) men show a higher threshold than women. But when they measure actual physiological reactions, women show a higher threshold of pain than men. Women also vary in pain threshold depending on menstrual cycle.

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TibetanFox Feels Good, Man from Death Continent Since: Oct, 2010
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#47: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:08:24 AM

Oh, the things I would like to say on this topic.

And it's not what you think.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#48: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:41:02 AM

"Ahem, if we are speaking about men a women in general, then yes, it should count. After all, the majority of population of the planet does not come from the western world." - Beholderess

Then you may as well do away with the idea of referring to the western world's poor as poor, because most people outside the western world are far poorer than them.

edited 25th Jan '11 6:43:40 AM by neoYTPism

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#49: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:46:03 AM

Not unless you want to argue that poverty is at the foot of a sliding scale, rather than being a broad category encompassing a range of people, some of whom are better off than others.

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Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros Since: Jan, 2001
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#50: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:54:48 AM

@Tibetan Fox- Then say them.

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