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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#3726: Jan 21st 2025 at 1:02:31 AM

Movie Bison is delusional enough to think that he's the good guy in this movie.

Exhibit A: His speech.

Though his interactions with Dhalsim make me think he just assumed Dhalsim would be too scared to do anything against him.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jan 21st 2025 at 5:03:17 PM

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#3727: Jan 21st 2025 at 1:09:01 AM

[up]It's a testament to Raul Julia's acting that he's able to make nonsense sound good. There's also the fact that the movie spawned the joke/fact that Bison Dollars have more value than cryptocurrency.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#3728: Jan 21st 2025 at 1:12:26 AM

Raul Julia did a lot of research as well, studying the movements of RL scumbags like Mussolini to get Bison's body language just right.

I respect that kind of dedication.

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#3729: Jan 21st 2025 at 2:49:08 AM

All while dying, too.

Are explosions science?
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#3730: Jan 21st 2025 at 2:49:57 AM

And of course...

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#3731: Jan 21st 2025 at 2:53:08 AM

You think I didn’t SEE that joke coming?

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#3732: Jan 21st 2025 at 3:00:20 AM

Oh... In that case, it's...

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
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#3733: Jan 21st 2025 at 3:11:05 AM

The only thing Street Fighter was missing to give it an extra class of cheese is casting B-movie, FMV video game cutscenes and TV series veteran Musetta Vander in a role. She played Sindel in Mortal Kombat Annihilation.

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#3734: Jan 21st 2025 at 3:34:32 AM

Would she have played Rose in that case?

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#3735: Jan 21st 2025 at 3:36:48 AM

Yup. She'd be perfect for Rose.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#3736: Jan 21st 2025 at 3:38:59 AM

She wasn't invented yet tho, was she?

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#3737: Jan 21st 2025 at 3:41:02 AM

Rose won't debut until Street Fighter Alpha but if she had showed up in Super Street Fighter 2, Musetta Vander would be perfect for the role and the kind of movie Street Fighter became. If we're sticking to available characters at the time, she could take the role of Eliza but reimagined as Ken's girlfriend/fiance.

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#3738: Jan 21st 2025 at 5:27:21 AM

The game based on the movie is a lot of fun too. (Zangief's ending is sad though.)

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#3739: Jan 21st 2025 at 5:38:59 AM

Regarding Zangief as a villain, not sure if it counts but given that he's a pro wrestler he's no doubt turned heel at 1 point in his career even if it is off-screen.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#3740: Jan 21st 2025 at 5:55:25 AM

I thought wrestling was scripted even if the fights are real, do you actually go evil in wrestling or what?

Was the undead wizard real all along?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jan 21st 2025 at 10:01:24 PM

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#3741: Jan 21st 2025 at 5:57:31 AM

Apparently, in the SF universe, some promotions do the whole scripted stuff, while in others, it's like an actual martial arts competition.

And with all the weird shit running around, a wrestler that's actually a sorcerer wouldn't be out of place.

Edited by Blueace on Jan 21st 2025 at 11:00:10 AM

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#3742: Jan 21st 2025 at 6:00:54 AM

It would seem to be that wrestling was real in the days of Haggar and Zangief but by the time of Rainbow Mika it's becoming scripted, at least if we accept the comicbooks' words on it since when Mika fought Zangief she expected a scripted fight and Zangief was confused by the idea.

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#3743: Jan 21st 2025 at 6:31:59 AM

[up][up][up]Assuming Slam Masters is part of the Street Fighter universe (since Mike Haggar is part of the lineup and Hugo does name drop female wrestler Black Widow in his Street Fighter 3: 2nd Impact ending), one of the wrestlers is The Wraith whose gimmick is a snake-themed zombie who may or may not really be undead. And w/ all the wacky insane stuff in real life Pro Wrestling kayfabe-wise (seriously look up the Dungeon of Doom, everything from Bray Wyatt, The Boogeyman, Chucky feuding w/ Rick Steiner and Robocop saving Sting), The Wraith doesn't look out of place.

Edited by KRider on Jan 21st 2025 at 6:44:29 AM

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#3744: Jan 21st 2025 at 6:47:38 AM

Zangrief is just filling the spot of Sagat

He's not evil he's just of the bad guys team and swaps sides when DJ spells it out to him

DJ is hilarious as Bison's "smart" minion

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#3745: Jan 21st 2025 at 6:58:07 AM

Zangief being evil in stuff like the cartoon and movie is probably knee jerk reaction from American writers to him being Russian. You know how it is. At least in the movie he does face turn once he realizes what's going on. The Arcade version of the movie game does have him vanish forever, haunted by the things he did as Bison's dumb muscle, while the console version he gets over it pretty quick, goes back to wrestling and hangs out with Honda...ironically like his Alpha 3 ending.

Also this shit's why him being a baddie in the cartoon again makes no sense to me if its meant to be in continuity with the movie. Like, they kept Blanka being Charlie, Dhalsim being a former scientist and Ryu and Ken being small time crooks on the side but suddenly Dee Jay's a hero while Zangief's back with Bison, and Shadaloo's a criminal organization like in the games now rather than being a small Vietnam-esque nation like in the movie.

Are explosions science?
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#3746: Jan 21st 2025 at 7:05:50 AM

My best guess is Dee Jay's role as a Bison henchman and Zangief's Heel–Face Turn were late additions to the movie script and the animated series already was in development when they were put in. It'd also explain why they kept Evil!Balrog to a single episode.

Shadaloo may be explained by Bison being booted as a tyrant, using the name for his group.

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on Jan 21st 2025 at 11:07:38 AM

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#3747: Jan 21st 2025 at 7:08:55 AM

Does that also explain why Sawada went from joining Guile's unsanctioned assault on Bison's base without issue to being part of Guile's court martial as the prosecution in the cartoon?

Are explosions science?
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#3748: Jan 21st 2025 at 7:10:49 AM

Broad strokes is my guess.

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
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#3749: Jan 21st 2025 at 7:11:34 AM

Sawada was kind of a forced addition so the writing might've been venting out on him.

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#3750: Jan 21st 2025 at 7:16:57 AM

Fei Long was missing in the movie's lineup. All this time I assumed Sawada was his replacement.

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