Deep Space 9 itself is still just trucking along with Quark and Kira still working there, but Sisko’s story doesn’t have any follow-up yet.
Granted, a lot of the problem might be that Avery Brooks is apparently, uh, really difficult to talk to and work with at this point. He hasn’t done any screen acting since like 2001 (with a brief blip for the Star Trek Legacy game in 2006), he does do stage acting and has started up a music career?
But the overwhelming impression is that while he’s proud of his role, he’s also almost completely uninterested in returning to it and he’s been erratic enough that it makes people leery about what happens if he does come back and has a problem with the scripts.
Besides the station itself, Kira and Quark returning, there was also a Lower Decks episode that guest starred Rom and Leeta w/ their original actors returning that showed his reign as Grand Nagus.
I think DS9's difficulty at a reunion show is due to both the vast majority of the cast not as interested in doing a reunion as the TNG cast as well as the deaths of Rene Auberjonois and Aron Eisenberg.
Edited by KRider on Feb 3rd 2025 at 4:39:01 AM
Set! Avenge! "Henshin." Black General! Bujin Sword! Ready, Fight!A version of Garak and Julian appears in Lower Decks with their original actors too, but it's duplicates of them.
Curzon also manages a small role of all characters.
But yes, DS 9 is relegated to comic book and novel continuations at the moment due to the cast.
At the very least we see Quark's main branch in DS9 expanding to include a souvenir store and Morn still there on his favorite bar stool. Aside from the Changelings in Picard and the Changeling in Discovery, the Karemma make their return in Lower Decks' DS9 episode for trade negotiations as well as having a legal IP bone to pick w/ Quark. Too bad we don't get a followup on DS9's Klingon Chef.
Edited by KRider on Feb 3rd 2025 at 5:06:14 AM
Set! Avenge! "Henshin." Black General! Bujin Sword! Ready, Fight!I think the main hurdle is the other shows were generally seen as big collaborations with 3-4 different writing staffs, but with DS9 everything associated with the Myth Arc is considered the child of Behr and Moore and a true follow-up is their story to tell.
Comics are just words and pictures. You can do anything with words and pictures.Other than the Avery Brooks who doesn't want to?
The most I've heard is Meany saying he wasn't interest in a cameo on Picard just for the sake of a cameo.
I think chiefly is that there just isn't the nostalgia for Ds9 among the general population. TNG was a big hit and Voyager was pushed by the network. Ds9 was the forgotten second tier show that didn't get the same push or oversight, that's why it could take risks the other shows didn't.
Edited by dcutter2 on Feb 3rd 2025 at 5:19:46 PM
More than any other show DS9 also has a coherent beginning, middle and end. It ended at a pretty good high point of the premise and character development. TNG and VOY had their positive points but there was a lingering feeling that they could have done more, especially with more modern sensibilities. PIC as a whole is in many ways an apology for Nemesis.
Comics are just words and pictures. You can do anything with words and pictures.They did the reunion show. It was the documentary.
And Avery Brooks shows why he wouldn't be involved. Dude is living his best jazz "I am high on the best weed in the world" life.
Also, let's be honest, Ira never wanted Sisko to return. He was forced to by Avery so that Sisko wouldn't be a deadbeat dad and play into unfortunate stereotypes.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Feb 4th 2025 at 12:48:04 PM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Avery Brooks was also in Shatner's "The Captains", where he was the music supervisor for it. I think he's very happy at where he's at, and is happy with Sisko being in his past.
Of course, the MMO got most of the cast from DS 9 to make a reprise of their roles with both Rene and Aron before their passings, but that was back in 2018.
Looking at JG Hertzler's filmography and he did reprise his role, sort of, as the voice of Martok in a tabletop RPG game w/c itself is a reference to the FMV video game Star Trek: Klingon that had Robert O'Reilly reprise his role as Gowron in FMV clips. Though the game didn't really have Martok himself do the voice acting.
Set! Avenge! "Henshin." Black General! Bujin Sword! Ready, Fight!It is interesting how much pull Lower Decks and STO have had in terms of actors. Granted, with STO, the way it handles dialogue means that a voice acting session is like, three hours long and it covers all of the acting from that actor for a whole expansion. It's not that hard to clear out a single day for that and it sounds like it pays reasonably well for that? There has been stuff from actors saying that they like how easy it is to voice for STO, but that the writing being like, all monologues feels really strange. They also don't pay like, amazingly. So someone who is still going from job to job is easier to get than, say, Patrick Stewart.
For Lower Decks though, they managed to pull Jolene Blalock who stopped acting in 2017 and spent a while before that mostly just treating it like a hobby. I've heard that STO tried to get her a few times and she was never interested, but she thought the Lower Decks script was really funny and thought it sounded like a fun one-off thing.
Edited by Zendervai on Feb 6th 2025 at 12:14:29 PM
I would really really appreciate Jolene Blalock returning as T'Pol in Strange New Worlds. Especially as if they canonise the plans for her to be half Romulan, she might be one of the few characters Pike can have an honest conversation with about what he knows about the Romulans.
But is that a pipe dream if she's acting so infrequently?
Huh. I hadn't thought that Pike's knowledge of Balance Of Terror include that information about Romulans and Vulcans. Not that I want to remember that episode tbh.
Saavik was going to be half-romulan was well. I wonder what the appeal is.
I was thinking when watching Prodigy that Maj'el was a bit of fresh air in being a vulcan that wasn't half something else, a cultural rebel (like T'Lyn) or an asshole.
Though in fairness in terms of main characters Tuvok and T'Pol were also fine mostly from what I've recall. Though I've not seen most of Ent, T'Pol did have a bit of cultural rebel thing going about mind melds or something?
Edited by dcutter2 on Feb 6th 2025 at 9:11:19 AM
T'Pol was subject to the cultural stigmas of the time, and also at the forefront of unprecedented changes in both Vulcan society and Vulcan/Earth relations.
Tuvok is probably the most pure Vulcan in that he isn't forced to question Vulcan society or define what being Vulcan means to himself. In fact the opposite is true, several times he has to reaffirm Vulcan traditions because to ignore it can end badly.
Comics are just words and pictures. You can do anything with words and pictures.I don't think T'Lyn and T'Pol are supposed to be cultural rebels, is just that they are young for their species. They are the equivalent of rebellious teens for Vulcan culture standards. T'Pol in particular looks older to us as is played by an adult woman and the character is supposed to be around 60 in-universe but should be remembered that Vulcans live around 300 years. Being 60 most be like be in your 17s. Tuvok is indeed the more representative Vulcan we see in a regular basis not only being fully adult but also not half something and if anything is the other way around, he's the victim of bullying by others most notably Neelix.
Is like how Steve Shives puts it in a video, that Neelix make his life's goal to make Tuvok express his emotions. Lets imagine Tuvok is a Hindu and Neelix is making his life's goal to make him eat meat...
I always felt writers in the Berman Era had a thing against Vulcans for some reason, in most episodes they were always presented as antagonistic, jerkass and rude. ENT is the bigger infractor but the most Vulcan-relevant DSN episode actually presents an openly racist Vulcan villain (my theoyr is that writers consciously or unconsciously) saw Vulcan stoicism and emotional repression as a terrble thing no one should do and were trying to send a message agains that behavior by showing that Vulcans are not really the idealized Spock character fans loved but a bunch of emotionless assholes that no one should want to be.
I heard that during TOS era that Spock became the most popular character among Trekkies that was unexpected. They expected Kirk to be the most popular as he was the typical sci-fi action hero like Buck Rogers or Flash Gordon. But Star Trek became popular among nerdy science-enthusiast who were more for the cerebral part and that identified with Spock for different reasons (including some neuro-divergent people who, as an Asperger myself, can see why. In fact Spock was my favorite character as a kid, and I also had problems socializing and expressing emotions).
Point of order for future education. While some Hindu groups are vegetarian as a whole Hinduism does not specifically prohibit eating meat. It's beef specifically that's verboten since cows are considered sacred.
I don't know if T'lyn really counts as a "cultural rebel"? I think she's the Vulcan equivalent of neurodivergent. Like, a common way to identify autism is when someone has a hard time going along with cultural norms, doesn't really understand why they matter and just sorta does their own thing because it matters more to them than arbitrarily looking like they fit in. Like, her being a "rebel" on the Vulcan ship was her not bothering to meditate, being a little more emotional than average...and spending lots of her time on projects that weren't approved and that no one else really gets why they matter.
That's pretty much exactly how T'lyn behaves, it just manifests as her being less able to suppress her emotions instead of her being less to express them because Vulcan culture prioritizes emotional suppression over liking emotional expression but only in very specific acceptable ways.
Plus, you know, she had that telepathic breakdown which seems kind of unusual for Vulcans.
This also kind of works because like, if we ever encounter aliens, there's a good chance the aliens would have a really hard time telling the difference between neurotypical and neurodivergent humans.
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I liked the DS 9 episode where Quark talks to the Vulcan lady about peace at a bargain. Her perspective is completely logical, but she's willing to listen to Quark and take what he says under advisement and is willing to admit that he is likely right about the situation. She's being actually logical and recognizing that her perspective isn't the only viable one and that someone from an outside culture might have an insight she wasn't previously privy to.
Edited by Zendervai on Feb 10th 2025 at 9:40:27 AM
A Cultural Rebel generally means she is fighting against Vulcan stigmas in general, which would be more Sybok or post-Kohlinar Spock. I generally got more of The Last DJ from T'Lyn, she was opposed to her superiors but admonished logic as the source of her digressions.
Comics are just words and pictures. You can do anything with words and pictures.

Not so much. To be fair Sisko's story deserves to be more than a cameo in some else's swansong.
The changelings are the only real reappearance from DS 9.
Sisko has a major storyline in the Stat Trek comics, and DS 9 and it's staff have a few apparences in Lower Decks.