Star Trek

x4 Are they ALL working on subversion or just a group of them? While the majority of refugees are good people, there's always going to be a few radicals hiding in there to try shit. I haven't actually seen the show yet.

The head of the conspiracy appears to be a Vulcan, though.

That's something that wasn't made incredibly clear. Is she openly Romulan, a Romulan pretending to be a Vulcan, an actual Vulcan, something else entirely?

Edited by HighCrate on Jan 31st 2020 at 10:04:51 AM

Hey, about that acid spitting Romulan from episode one. Is he genetically modified to do that? Or something else? Also, which Borg cube is that? I think both the one from "Best of Both Worlds" and the one from "First Contact" were completely destroyed.

We see him bite into something and then spit acid so one has to assume it was an acid capsule.

And we dont know what Cube that is, we do know that the borg were probing Federation and Romulan territory as early as S1 of TNG and Romulan territory is FAR closer to the Delta Quadrant than the Federation [1]◊ is so it could be any.

Also Nero's ship was made from reverse engineered Borg tech so Romulans have been studying em for a while.

Edited by Memers on Jan 31st 2020 at 2:53:39 AM

FYI Episode one is free on Youtube in the US. (use a VPN or proxy rest of the world :) )

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Edited by Memers on Jan 31st 2020 at 3:01:25 AM

I have a couple of nitpicks about this us week in that the plot, well, can't even call them twists, were so obvious and by the book. The sinister looking guy? Bad guy in on the conspiracy, the person the unbelieving admiral goes to? In on the conspiracy, there person she calls, half of a good cop/bad cop team with a connection. It's gorgeous, well performed and last week had nice intrigue, so I'm hoping they spring something that shakes it up by the end and am sticking with it. Definitely enjoying it, just some nitpicks.

Oh, I was going to comment about the Starfleet uniforms. They seem to have gone back to the colour scheme we saw in early DS9. The ones the crew of Voyager wore for the entirety of that show's run because they were so far away from home they never got the memo that Starfleet had new uniforms. Mind you the design is different, but the colour patches are in the same place. I was kind of hoping we'd see the uniforms worn in "All Good Things" from TNG and "Endgame" from Voyager.

Here's a question I've thought about, but can't recall an answer to: Is Data more advanced than Borg technology? I can't recall what's said on the topic.

"You could ask Riker or LaForge or Worf."

"No, I'm going to ask someone who hates me."

"So... Sisko?"

Oh, man. Could you imagine how Picard would react if he found out about what Sisko did in "In the Pale Moonlinght"? To say nothing about how pissed the Romulans would be.

Plot twist: He teams up with The Borg Queen.

I believe at one point the Borg refer to androids as irrelevant. Maybe it was Hugh? Though I think that may have more to do with them not fitting into the Borg's goals.

Data once snapped a Borg neck quite easily. And the Queen seemed enamored with him in First Contact. I forget the exact dialogue, but I'm sure she said a few complimentary things to him then.

x6 Whats interesting is they have either gone back to Command Gold or they have gone with the STO style of your background and position determines your color so if say the Chief of Starfleet Security will wear gold instead of red or the captain of a science vessel will wear blue.

Which there were signs of this in DS 9, Chief of Starfleet Security in the episode 'The Die is Cast' wore a gold admiral uniform, the only one ever seen on screen.

I dont think the Borg actually got who he was till they started assimilating the crew of the E, they likely only thought of him as just a standard android like the APU units in Voyager.

Edited by Memers on Feb 2nd 2020 at 7:26:00 AM

I remember the Romulan sun going nova (Supernova? What's the difference?) was a plot point in the first Abrams movie. What did they say about it there? Because I think there was a line about how this one star exploding would destroy the galaxy?

IIRC (been awhile since I have seen it) they never said it would blow up a galaxy but it WOULD destroy most if not all of the Romulian Empire/system.

Spock tried to stop it and Picard was trying to save as many people as possible, anybody else have a head canon that they coordinated this?

Here's the line:

SPOCK PRIME: One hundred twenty-nine years from now, a star will explode, and threaten to destroy the galaxy.

I'm going to assume he means "destroy the galaxy" metaphorically. Honestly, I'd imagine some Federation citizens would be happy about this. Looking at you Section 31.

I assume they confused "galaxy" with "solar system."

Well the beta canon made it actually a subspace shockwave ala Praxis and it cut a huge swath out of that section of the Galaxy and Spock put a stop to it just after it hit the Romulan system.

It was an accident created after experimenting on an Iconian Gateway.

The first Abrams trek movie was a case of viewers are morons by the writers. How are Joe and Jane Moviegoer going to care about a plot point unless it could "destroy the galaxy"?

I don't care for comics or the books because most were crap or most were forced to clean up the cannon.

On another point, I watched "Berman Trek" by Renegade Cut.

Aw man, so much StarTrek potential flushed down the toilet because Rick Berman has the imagination of a brick. A lot of problems with Trek after Next Gen can be laid at his feet.

The second one as well. It was just a dumbed down version of a star trek novel with questionable stunt casting and sooo many scenes that just were nostalgia grabs.

So episode 4 of Picard. Wow that colony was STRAIGHT out of STO, ground and space they might as well named it Virinat instead of Vashti.

I liked it though, we got to see a lot of background to the evacuation. I wish they had shown picard's ship from back then, the Verity, though.

So the episode ended with Seven of Nine showing up and all I wanted was more Seven of Nine. And also more of those cool Romulan warrior-nuns. Those were a nice bit of Romulan society that we didn't know about before.

From what little we see of Seven, she's more expressive...even while barely saying anything. I'm pretty curious as to how she and Picard even know each other. Their respective adventures were literally and figuratively light years apart...although Picard does seem to be friends with Janeway since he gets that call from her in Nemesis. Maybe he met Seven sometime between the events of the end of Voyager and the events of that film.

They probably met at a assimilation support group.

When Seven appeared in the trailers for this show, she had way more personality than she did on Voyager so I knew going in that when she showed up she'd be more "spunky."