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drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#26: Jan 19th 2011 at 9:40:43 PM

@Irishman: some people see guilt where there isn't any.

But no, I figure there better be a point to a story whether or not it involves alcohol or drugs. I'm probably the biggest drinker on this site (anyone who disputes; my house is marked on Troper Maps...show up and I'll prove it by drinking your ass under the table) and as I said, I dislike the people you were talking about.

Drinking (or smoking, or drugs) is a means to an end, and that end is enjoying oneself. If it is not fun, then don't do it. I've put the damn drink down before, when it became unpleasant to consume it.

Ingesting substances just to do it is pretty damn retarded.

EDIT: Super ninja'ed! KCK: You're not straight edge, you're fairly normal. And that's a good thing.

@Tzetze: yeah, the slobbering drunken asshole certainly is funny. Feel free to mock him, he deserves it.

edited 19th Jan '11 9:42:58 PM by drunkscriblerian

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
KCK Can I KCK it? from In your closet Since: Jul, 2010
Can I KCK it?
#27: Jan 19th 2011 at 9:44:45 PM

@Drunk Well, thanks, I guess.

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UnabashedFornicator Since: Oct, 2010
#28: Jan 20th 2011 at 1:22:36 AM

Straight-Edge adherents can be obnoxious when they turn their practice into a religion-needing-converts or some sort of social clique, but even the latter set is pretty indistinguishable from other habitual fad groups. I've only known (well) four people who explicitly claimed to be Straight-Edge, and three were pretty cool. One was originally a pretty severe alcoholic, so I'm not going to knock it if it works.

From my own limited experience, I think the whole recreational sex clause is either extremely ambiguous or ignored by many adherents. For one all that the "don't fuck" clause meant was that he had to use "protection" — it doesn't necessarily follow, but again, probably not a bad idea.

edited 20th Jan '11 1:25:47 AM by UnabashedFornicator

Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#29: Jan 20th 2011 at 6:31:05 AM

It's almost like being hedonistic in your own pride and ego instead of mind altering substances.

RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
Jesus as in Revelations
#30: Jan 20th 2011 at 12:37:34 PM

So I've been SE all that time... except with distressed misundrstanding rather than contempt. Why do this to themselves?

'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?
Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#31: Jan 20th 2011 at 4:10:34 PM

Addiction, dissatisfaction with their lives, or the desire to experience short-term pleasure. Of course, in some cases, it's just rude not to have a drink.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#32: Jan 20th 2011 at 4:20:12 PM

Booze tastes good. Being drunk can be pleasant.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
Jesus as in Revelations
#33: Jan 20th 2011 at 5:59:25 PM

[up][up]Back when I was a Muslim I was rude a lot of the time that way.

Now... I still can't get to like alcohol. Seriously, I know better drugs than that for a similar relaxing effect (I take sleeping pills) that don't make me feel like my entire blood was poisoned and being pumped around in a hurry to be cleaned except it didn't move properly because the veins were too lax. Yes, I can feel that shit happening, my meditation training allows me to do such things as count my pulse at any single point in my body (monitoring all of them at the same time is still too difficult: the pulse gets later to the fingers than, say, the forehead, and keeping track of all that shit happening at once is, for now, impossible to me). So I have a lot of internal sensitivity (though the intestines are still a bit of a puzzle to me, I have to rely on secondary, pressure data from the muscles around and the blood and all that. That's because the digestive system hardly communicates with the brain at all, it has it's own circuitry. That can get annoying, when you have bowel trouble and can do nothing about it after the sternum or before the recum.

'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?
JackMackerel from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA Since: Jul, 2010
#34: Jan 20th 2011 at 6:12:19 PM

The flip side's no less smug. Yes, we know, drunkeness/pot highs are cool.

/is a teetotaler until he can buy alcohol without the risk of getting arrested.

edited 20th Jan '11 6:13:08 PM by JackMackerel

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#35: Jan 20th 2011 at 6:22:51 PM

I've had my head messed up by medicine I had to take after surgery, and I really don't get why people do stuff like that to themselves voluntarily.

On the other hand, I don't actually get mad at someone unless they drink enough to be a danger to me.

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#36: Jan 20th 2011 at 6:33:01 PM

I don't have issues with people who like to drink unless they are smug, obnoxious tards who think it makes them look cool. Or are angry drunks who start fights.

And you can feel all that happening Raw? Huh. Neato. I can meditate and feel shit like that, but only if I am focusing on it...

edited 20th Jan '11 6:34:51 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#37: Jan 20th 2011 at 7:20:24 PM

I was given morphine once, it was pretty awesome.

RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
Jesus as in Revelations
#38: Jan 20th 2011 at 7:31:17 PM

[up][up]It's years upon years of training.

Fuck, meditation's the only part of martial arts I'm any good at...

'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#39: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:15:27 PM

Oh you do martial arts? I do it partly because I'm Buddhist...sorta...maybe...stuff.

GOD DAMN I AM FAILING TODAY

edited 20th Jan '11 8:15:53 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
Jesus as in Revelations
#40: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:26:19 PM

Don't worry, you can practice Buddhist meditation techniques without buying into their bullshit. "You must give constantly to all without expecting anything back". That's Stupid Good Ayn Rand bait if I've ever seen any.

'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#41: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:39:58 PM

Oh I say maybe sort of because I always have such issues with labels...that and I am a horrible Buddhist. God I love getting stuff...and wanting stuff. Sometimes. Actually no. Wanting things often sucks. STOP WANTING THINGS YOU BASTARD.

...but my desiring to not desire is a desire so...um...hmm. Well now.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#42: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:44:24 PM

I could never be a Buddhist; mostly because I'm too much of a vengeful, fighty bastard.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#43: Jan 20th 2011 at 9:08:52 PM

"The flip side's no less smug." - Jack

This. I don't think it's fair to focus on those who look down on recreational drug users without taking into account those who look down on those who DON'T use drugs recreationally. (Which frankly I'd consider even worse, but Your Mileage May Vary of course.)

drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#44: Jan 20th 2011 at 9:48:50 PM

[up]I don't know what things are like where you are, but where I'm from the hedonists would be happy just being allowed to indulge in peace.

While I think some people just need to loosen the fuck up and have a few, I'm not about to try and make them.

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
Jesus as in Revelations
#45: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:32:23 AM

@Aon: There's nothing wrong with wanting stuff, that's what willpower, evolution, proactivity, is about. Given the way they describe it, being an Awakened is the same as being a freaking rock. I don't want to be a rock, I want to be awesome.

'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?
JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#46: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:36:31 AM

I'm only smug when my friends are hung over. Otherwise, it's just the way I live my life. If someone asks why i don't drink, I joke that I'm a muslim.

RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
Jesus as in Revelations
#47: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:38:43 AM

I joke that I'm a muslim.
ಠ_ಠ

It's a good joke. I still disapprove, for some reason.

edited 21st Jan '11 4:39:01 AM by RawPower

'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?
storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#48: Jan 21st 2011 at 6:08:15 AM

I bet the muslims I knew drink more than me. (That is, 0)

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
Jesus as in Revelations
#49: Jan 21st 2011 at 6:29:51 AM

I disapprove even more. Don't go calling yourself a Muslim and then doing this sort of thing.

'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?
Karmakin Moar and Moar and Moar Since: Aug, 2009
Moar and Moar and Moar
#50: Jan 21st 2011 at 7:12:00 AM

I'm one of those 'smug' people. Although it's less that I'm smug about it, and more that I get really annoyed by drug use. I actually don't have too much (or any) problem with some illicit drug use, after all, generally it's done in the comfort of one's own home.

But it annoys me that so much in our society seems to revolve around alcohol and tobacco. Where I grew up, opportunities to go out and socialize were basically zero unless you drank. So it's not so much that i feel that I'm smug..I don't even mention it unless I'm asked, and then I'm the one who's looked at like I have three heads. It's that I feel our society is set up in such a way to be smug in favor of drinkers and (to a lessening extent) smokers.

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