TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Megaman Zero series

Go To

Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#1: Jan 18th 2011 at 10:50:55 AM

Been playing a lot of this lately. Although a bit frustrating and at times just downright evil, it's a load of fun and definitely some of the better GBA games out there, and probably my second favorite series of Megaman games, behind pre-6 X.

Best one IMO is MMZ 3, as the story is epic and gameplay noticeably improved over the previous two. Challenge wise, it's probably the easiest but considering this series' notorious difficulty that's not so much a bad thing as one may think. As for the one I enjoyed/enjoying the least, definitely MMZ 2 mostly due to the frustrating chain rod mechanics and the stage design which gets too happy with deathtraps(Fefnir's stage being ESPECIALLY guilty of this).

I always loved the designs the bosses got in this series. They look a bit odd compared to the X series but still awesome. Phoenix Magnion is probably my favorite out of the mythos reploids(the animal ones), fefnir my favorite out of the four guardians, and out of Weil's numbers Blazin Flizzard.

Though, I've always wondered what the reaction to the series would've been if X himself had been the primary villain of the first game like they originally planned. Think the series would've been received worse?

Oh, and the music, being Megaman, is excellent of course.

edited 18th Jan '11 10:58:58 AM by Vertigo_High

Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
Geomancer
#2: Jan 18th 2011 at 10:53:46 AM

Not sure if the series would've been received worse, though the Unfortunate Implications would've shot through the roof.

You got some dirt on you. Here's some more!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#3: Jan 18th 2011 at 10:59:40 AM

Got the collection, so awesome.

As far as the final bosses go I'd say Copy X is the hardest, with Weil slightly behind, followed by Omega and Elipzo Elpizo.

The hardest final stage is from the second game (damn those ladders). And the best atmosphere is to be found in Ragnarok.

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#4: Jan 18th 2011 at 10:59:43 AM

I have played through most of the second game and I generally like the gameplay. The story reads like bad fanfiction however. I could see the villain "plot twist" coming from a mile away and what was done with X bothers me. The rest of the series isn't raising my hopes in that regard.

As for how I would have reacted to X being the main villain as originally planned...Depends on how it was executed. It sounds like it would be better than what happened to him.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#5: Jan 18th 2011 at 11:02:53 AM

I don't think Elipzo Elpizo turning evil is a twist. You get to see him grow and change as you progress through the game. I feel it's much better than some "so I was evil all along, haha" reveal.

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#6: Jan 18th 2011 at 11:07:14 AM

That may be why it was so obvious. Either way it was stupid and felt to me like it was supposed to be something surprising. From the moment I first saw him I went "Yep he's the villain". He didn't even get to say anything. Just his face says "MWUAHAHAH I AM EVIL OR WILL BE IN FIVE MINUTES!!!!" He was obvious and his "growth" was lame.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
ComicX6 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7: Jan 18th 2011 at 12:12:59 PM

I think the third and fourth games did a better job telling their stories than the first two. There were more dialogue cutscenes to more clearly explain what was going on. The better localization and dialogue editting helped too.

That said, the second game, while having a lot of That One Levels has some of my favorite music from the series, like Ice Brain and Departure, which kinda went on to become the de facto theme for the whole series.

My Megaman and MegaTen RPG Liveblogs
Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#8: Jan 18th 2011 at 5:07:43 PM

I kinda knew Elpzio was going to be a villain as well. Third game had a better twist and story than the first two for sure(though the first one's wasn't that bad). I kinda wished they had expanded on fefnir and Leviathan's character more like they did with Harpuia though.

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#9: Jan 18th 2011 at 5:11:51 PM

I really don't get how this game has a reputation for difficulty  *

, but whatever. Kinda wish they went with X being the villain because that could have been pretty interesting, but the first game is the one I haven't played, so no big deal there either. These games were sort of the introduction to Mega Man for me, and I'm glad of it.

and what was done with X bothers me

Eh?

[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#10: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:03:29 PM

This. I didn't care for how his death played out. Part of it is how lame Elpizo is and the fact that X was asleep and helpless. In the context of the story it makes sense I suppose but I just found it really lame. X is killed helpless by Obvious McVillain Pants. I think I would have preferred him being the villain as originally planned. Depending on how it was done it could have been neat. Much neater than what I've currently played anyway. I don't expect awesome story telling from the franchise but that was amazingly lame. At least we got Maverick Hunter X which was quite badass cutscene and movie wise.

My introduction to the Megaman franchise was Legends. My introduction to X and Zero came from somewhere else...a small glimpse of them somewhere. Not sure where. First game I played in the X series was 4 though the first game I played with X and Zero was Xtreme 2.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#11: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:14:10 PM

It's not the actual stages that are that bad (though they do love them some death traps), it's the cruel rating system that gives the games their infamous reputation.

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#12: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:30:06 PM

Oh god yes. The rating system is unforgiving to those who seek the highest grades. One fuck up can ruin a score...

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
Geomancer
#13: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:33:47 PM

You have to play perfectly in those games. You have to go through it fast enough while (Only for 100% runners) getting the collectibles that will be Lost Forever if you don't get them on the 1st run through. And you can't get hit at all.

You got some dirt on you. Here's some more!
Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
Always Right
#14: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:35:09 PM

All 4 games are easy. It's the S-Ranks that are hard to achieve...and you need them to learn techniques.


Not sure if the series would've been received worse, though the Unfortunate Implications would've shot through the roof.

ummm...Unfortunate Implications? Explain plz.

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#15: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:35:38 PM

Yeah...It's lead to me gaining a habit of restarting the moment I get hit...

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
Always Right
#16: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:40:06 PM

But you become soo good at the game in the end.

I remember killing Omega without realizing that I didn't get hit once by the end. It's like levelling up without any actual changes happening to your character. [lol]

So why is X turning out evil Unfortunate Implications?

edited 18th Jan '11 6:46:37 PM by Signed

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#17: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:47:13 PM

Yes you become godly, but before then you're a grumbling twitching mess who resets the game if so much as a hair hits Zero's pinky toe.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
Geomancer
#18: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:54:21 PM

@Signed: It's explained somewhere on the trope page.

Edit: Some people were rubbed the wrong way since essentially Dr. Wily was the one who saved everyone and not Light.

edited 18th Jan '11 6:56:46 PM by Marioguy128

You got some dirt on you. Here's some more!
Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:02:47 PM

Just finished playing all four games in the DS collection.

The levels really weren't all that difficult. The bosses, on the other hand... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#20: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:03:45 PM

Easy? First playthrough, I wouldn't call any of the games easy. Especially the second one.

^Yeah some of the bosses are insane(Phoenix Magnion and 1st Craft come to mind). I thought MMZ 2's stages were rather difficult for the most part though, I still haven't beat Fefnir's. Lava + spikes + crush + annoying flail enemies on every corner = hell.

[down] I remember spending 20 minutes trying to beat him. I ended up killing him with one life pellet left. Also, I was Rank A so he had that annoying thunderslam attack.

edited 18th Jan '11 7:10:51 PM by Vertigo_High

Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
Geomancer
#21: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:03:51 PM

[up][up]So how was your first experience with Aztec Falcon?

edited 18th Jan '11 7:06:07 PM by Marioguy128

You got some dirt on you. Here's some more!
Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#22: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:12:50 PM

Considering I died 7 times (yes, I counted)...

Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#23: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:19:38 PM

How did you do against 1st Craft in 4? He was the worst for me. I spent like over an hour trying to beat him and failed, then next night I tried for about 20 minutes and finally managed to beat him. His laser from full screen is absurdly tough to dodge. I actually memorized his battle theme since he killed me so much lol.

Seems like 4's bosses gave me the hardest time overall. And then there was that douche who kicked me into a pit.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#24: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:22:23 PM

I never really got what was so hard about Captain Aztec Falcon.

[up] Though I certainly agree with that. *shudder*

edited 18th Jan '11 7:23:18 PM by Moth13

Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#25: Jan 18th 2011 at 7:23:37 PM

Beat him on my 5th try. Those damn fragmenting bombs and that Laser... >_<


Total posts: 42
Top