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ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#1: Jan 18th 2011 at 5:07:41 AM

Why is it that I noticed that haters are more vocal than fans? When haters are vocal, why are the fans not even bothering to counter? Why do they just keep silent and not let the world know that the object of their fandom is liked, not hated?

Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#2: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:05:13 AM

Because haters tend to be angrier and more emotionally volatile than fans. Simple, really.

EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:13:52 AM

They're equally vocal, but fans are brushed aside easier in spite of their greater numbers because their opinions are usually mindless and shallow, while haters are more likely to have one or two arguments (even if stupid ones on close examination) backing their opinions.

Eric,

Sphur Chronosaviour from England Since: Nov, 2010
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#4: Jan 18th 2011 at 6:18:55 AM

Personally I can't be bothered with defending something I'm a fan of most of the time. You can spend ages arguing with people about whether it's good or not and by the end of it, nobody has a different opinion and it just becomes frustrating. I'll only really defend something if I'm a huge fan of it.

edited 18th Jan '11 6:19:20 AM by Sphur

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#5: Jan 18th 2011 at 8:06:59 AM

Because disagreements spawn more discussion than agreements. A thread that consists of nothing but "X is awesome!" gets boring and dies pretty quickly, but if everyone's talking about their particular reason for why they hate X, then it can go pretty much forever.

I find myself having to fight against this tendency; I seem to comment a lot more on why I dislike stuff than why I like stuff. >_>;;

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ThatOtherGriffin Since: Aug, 2010
#6: Jan 19th 2011 at 11:44:46 PM

Because Haters have the habit of wanting to prove how their arguement is absolutely right and how everyone else are wrong.

Common phenomenon, really.

edited 19th Jan '11 11:45:40 PM by ThatOtherGriffin

HelveticaScenario Since: Dec, 2010
#8: Jan 21st 2011 at 11:03:40 AM

There's just as many, but you've probably learned to tune out the Vocal Fans because they're morons.

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#9: Jan 21st 2011 at 2:37:03 PM

One thing I've noticed is that the vocal fans on this site are much less likely than the vocal haters to engage in edit warring.

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Vorpy Unstoppable Sex Goddess from from from from from from from from from Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Two-timing
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#10: Jan 21st 2011 at 2:38:20 PM

It's because for some reason, people pay more attention to them.

And they devote more time to getting rid of what they dislike.

Kind of like people are more driven to getting rid of something than keep it there.

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EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Jan 21st 2011 at 3:00:18 PM

@feotakahari: That's probably because a fan is contented simply by being allowed to spam their object of adoration everywhere, regardless of how many other things are present, while haters are unsatisfied as long as an opinion they despise is allowed to go unchallenged. The one exception to this is probably “best of” lists and other gushing related one-upsmanship, which turns typically innocuous groups of disparate fans into a writhing mass of apoplectic cobras.

Eric,

Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
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#12: Jan 21st 2011 at 3:38:11 PM

For a fan, any hate is The Complainer Is Always Wrong. So topics with hate in them get tons of vitriol-filled fan posts, which just encourage the haters. Those topics are therefore always on top of the page.

Suck it, fans.

And edit warring is done when a vocal fan and a vocal hater decide that we can't have nice things.

edited 21st Jan '11 3:38:56 PM by Scardoll

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Nyarly Das kann doch nicht sein! from Saksa Since: Feb, 2012
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#13: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:14:37 PM

To my experience, it's what Griffin said:

Because Haters have the habit of wanting to prove how their arguement is absolutely right and how everyone else are wrong.
It's similar to my thought process until I realized how stupid it is, to get worked up about nothing: When I liked something and another person didn't like it, I didn't care. But if I disliked something and another person did like it, I was sure that I had to set him right.

And no, I never accept that ridiculous notion that fans are stupider than haters (or rather, that haters are less stupid than fans).

People aren't as awful as the internet makes them out to be.
Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
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#14: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:15:16 PM

Fans and haters are equally stupid.

But both sides can never be honest about it.

The idea that haters are more argumentative than fans is stupid as well. Haters don't get posts unless fans respond.

edited 21st Jan '11 4:16:03 PM by Scardoll

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miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
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#15: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:15:24 PM

I'm one of Silver.

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Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
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#16: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:16:55 PM

Miru posted in this thread.

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#17: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:46:05 PM

Scardoll, tell me. Where on the doll did the fanboy touch you?

Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
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#18: Jan 21st 2011 at 4:50:44 PM

Rebochan, you forgot that I have the monopoly on lame comebacks.

That'll be ten dollars.

edited 21st Jan '11 4:50:57 PM by Scardoll

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ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#19: Jan 22nd 2011 at 6:54:53 AM

@Jovian: You say that "X is awesome!" is boring.

However, is it also true that if you are surrounded with people who say "X is awesome!" and by an extension, you also like X yourself, you'd feel warm and reassured that your favorite is a well loved character?

1whowillmakeEnzeru Since: Jan, 2011
#20: Jan 22nd 2011 at 7:36:04 AM

I won't defend a series I like unless I want to keep it going even though it looks like it's gonna die. That way, I don't have to worry about it being severely messed up later on or having to buy installments that are on a system I don't have/can't afford to get/can't emulate.

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