I'm kind of an oddity in this department I guess, I get shit from my friends all the time over having standards that are "lame".
What can I say? I like talk and debate, a woman who is intelligent and has a curiosity about the world around her is a requirement for me to be romantically involved. I don't settle because boring women are more hassle than they are worth, I'd just as soon go occupy my own time with hiking and videogames before I'd spend time with someone who bores me.
it was from a marriage and family course and the professor had the males post lists and the femals post the list. granted like 80-90% of the class's population was female but haha oh wow.
Also for another way to see this, post that question on an internet forum -_-
Yes I have done the same (well it was a girl I knew IRL), I did that in the past because the girl was nice/shy/knewwhathehellireferenced etc etc.
edited 16th Jan '11 4:02:20 PM by BalloonFleet
WHASSUP....... ....with lolis!That's lame? What is wrong with your friends?
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.Something like that, it's usually when they point out a girl with a smoking hot body who is dumb as a brick, and start fawning over her. If I know who she is and I've talked with her before, I'll pass judgement with either "She's shallower than a puddle" or "Yeah, she's pretty cool."
The usual response that comes back to me is "Dude, that's not the point, she's fucking hot!"
I think it's because I don't have a massive value on sex as being the end-all and be-all of why I would deign to speak to a female. I'm in the market for a best friend, partner in crime, get-it-right-the-first-time wife sort of woman, not a sex partner for a few months until we get bored of eachother.
Yeah, that's pretty gay of me I guess.
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Personally, I would declare that as intelligent. And consinderate. And a way of getting a lot of plus points.
On the beard thing: You should probably [[bold:not]] make decisions by asking: What could girls want? but rather: What personal appearance would I prefer? If you look goofy with a beard, don't grow one because you heard they like them. Some do, some don't, some decide on the compatility of beard to wearer's face. Some like the scratching, some don't. Most of the other "I heard girls like..." should be handled like that.
Edit: Why did I type bird?!
edited 16th Jan '11 4:27:57 PM by myrdschaem
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In the time it takes to tell a woman about that concept they usually are thinking "Damnit he needs to stop talking and start fawning over me more!"
Honestly I can be a rather bad boyfriend too. I like lots of time alone to recharge and wind down, I love video games, and I talk way too much about my job.
Barkey: "Something like that, it's usually when they point out a girl with a smoking hot body who is dumb as a brick, and start fawning over her. If I know who she is and I've talked with her before, I'll pass judgement with either "She's shallower than a puddle" or "Yeah, she's pretty cool."
The usual response that comes back to me is "Dude, that's not the point, she's fucking hot!""
Have you ever thought that even if she is stupid, she might be nice, thoughtful, and funny? Forget looks, why does intelligence have to be such a turn-off? It's not like it's her choice.
I consider attractiveness and personality before intelligence, even though I'm increidbly smart myself. Then again I'm 15 and haven't had a legit relationship yet.
edited 16th Jan '11 5:10:00 PM by Erock
If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.I love the Suspiciously Specific Denial of pedophilia in the title.
I'm feeling strangely happy now, contented and serene. Oh don't you see, finally I'll be, somewhere that's green...Actually, I think that's just because he's worrying about college (as opposed to his present locale, high school).
EDIT I don't know what that word means
edited 16th Jan '11 5:25:21 PM by Tzetze
[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC."I think it's because I don't have a massive value on sex as being the end-all and be-all of why I would deign to speak to a female." - Barkey
Sex nothing, even then unattractiveness might not necessarily be that drastic a drawback. There just needs to be some sexual arousal during sex; if anything being with a plain-looking woman might mean less unwanted arousal is caused. Besides, some would argue that the less physically attractive girls are actually better in bed...
edited 16th Jan '11 5:33:22 PM by neoYTPism
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I've noticed the same, they usually try to make up for not being supermodels by being.. Attentive?
I'm not really into nice girls who aren't terribly smart, they make good friends, but not girlfriends(for me).
They don't have to be knowledgeable, just have a curiosity about life and a lust for knowledge.(lol insert lust joke here)
"I'm not really into nice girls who aren't terribly smart, they make good friends, but not girlfriends(for me)." - Barkey
Meh, I've never had a girlfriend, but to me kindness is a higher priority than intelligence. I'd rather be with a girl who I could be surer was a good person but turned out to be a little on the slow side than be with a girl who I could be surer was smart but turned out to be a horrible person.
Ideally, of course, a combination of intelligence and kindness would be preferable...
My girlfriend is a bit of a bitch sometimes, not to me, but one of our favorite activities is what we call "People Watching", usually done at the mall or another public place full of people, we privately make sarcastic observations about the people around us. It's good fun.
She's a redhead, so I can't blame her too much, it's in the blood.
^^ a 'bit of a bitch'? seems like an understatement given the slippery slope snarking on "weird people in the mall" can turn into. Also sarcasm -_-
Not trying to change your preferences, but it's not like you have to engage in politics and whatnot all the time. You don't have to discuss that all the time, relationships are for loving each other etc etc
Hey, at least your friends don't manipulate dozens of females to think that he loves them and cares for them and tricks them into thinking there are no other girls like that......I have a wrestler acquaintance who does that and it's immoral.....as in his stories could come out of 'I hope they serve beer in hell' level of immoral....actually I don't think the guy who did that manipulated multiple women to the point of saying he'd marry them and buying cheap-but-good-looking marriage rings for that purpose.
edited 16th Jan '11 7:23:13 PM by BalloonFleet
WHASSUP....... ....with lolis!Gee, I dunno. I speak for myself here, but I look for:
- kindness - intelligence - a sense of humour - empathy - treats me well and is not a jerk.
Looks are secondary. I find my husband incredibly handsome and arousing. And it's partly because he really is just that good looking but also because there's something that clicks between us. :3
It also helps that we have similar interests: anime, video games, movies, martial arts, our taste in music overlaps quite a bit, etc. Honestly, I don't think I could stand being with someone who didn't like those things, or at the very least, didn't mind that I liked those things. Or, a big deal breaker would be if they couldn't appreciate that I like to draw and make up characters in my head. Basically, I'm a giant nerd, deal with it.
Anyhow, every girl is different. If I'm going to generalize a bit, it would be safe to say that most girls would like someone who makes them feel happy, and appreciates them.
Want my advice? My husband was my best friend even before we started dating. I was happy to transition into dating because I felt comfortable and happy with him, because I already knew the kind of person he was. Your Mileage May Vary on this one though because some girls will feel awkward dating a former friend.
Don't think about it too much. Trying to go about finding a [good] girlfriend methodically is precisely what's not going to work. :p Just let it flow, man. If you meet a cute girl, make a move. If she's not interested, move on to someone else.
Shine

Yeah, the media doesnt give us any goddammed credit....