For first wave Jamaican ska, it's pretty much impossible to acquire original albums. Your best option would be to track down a compilation by Prince Buster, Desmond Dekker, Laurel Aiken or the Skatalites.
As for the 2 Tone British ska revival, The Specials by the The Specials, One Step Beyond by Madness and Too Much Pressure by the Selecter are the obvious starting points. The (English) Beat and Bad Manners are pretty good as well, but I'm not familiar enough with their discographies to recommend specific albums.
Third wave ska is Sublime (all three of their albums), Reel Big Fish (Turn the Radio Off, Why Do They Rock So Hard), Less Than Jake (Losing Streak, Hello Rockview), the Mighty Mighty Bosstones (Let's Face It) and maybe Operation Ivy (who only did one album - Energy).
@Thenamelesssamurai
The only Sludge Metal bands I know of are Black Tusk
and Baroness
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Any suggestions for bands similar to this
?
edited 3rd Apr '11 4:40:16 PM by NULLcHiLD27
@Thenamelesssamurai: While not personally an expert on math-rock, I have several friends who are very into the genre. Here are some frequent favourites that I can back up:
- Polvo, Cor-Crane Secret
- Hella, Hold Your Horse Is
- Ahleuchatistas, The Same and the Other
- Ungdomskulen, Cry-Baby
And then there are the things which, while not of the genre per se run in the same vein or preceded it:
- Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt
- This Heat, Made Available: The Peel Sessions
- Henry Cow, In Praise Of Learning
edited 3rd Apr '11 4:39:52 PM by JHM
I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
FUCK YEAH, UNGDOMSKULEN! When your language has such a ridiculously badass-sounding word that actually translates as 'Middle School', you know that your language is awesome. I love Norwegian.
Aaaanyway, Math-Rock for thenamelesssamurai...
Personal favourites:
- Battles - Mirrored
- This Town Needs Guns - Animals
- Youthmovies - Good Nature (also listen to the EP they released under their previous name of Youthmovie Soundtrack Strategies, which is called *deep breath* Hurrah! Another Year, Surely This One Will Be Better Than the Last; The Inexorable March of Progress Will Lead Us All to Happiness.)
- Tubelord - Our First American Friends
- Maps & Atlases - You & Me & The Mountain or Perch Patchwork
Classics of the genre:
- Don Caballero - Don Caballero 2 or American Don
- American Football - American Football
- Shellac - Excellent Italian Greyhound
- Q And Not U - No Kill No Beep Beep
- Slint - Spiderland
edited 3rd Apr '11 5:04:40 PM by Saeglopur
Listen to Music with Tropers at The Troper Turntable!
Don Caballero! Yes!
Also, here are a few more people that aren't really math-rock, but of a similar aesthetic and worth looking into if you haven't already:
- Minutemen, Double Nickels On The Dime
- Gastr Del Sol, Camofleur
- Ludus, The Seduction
That is a lot of genres. It might have been better to break them up rather than lumping them all together. I'll try to see what I can do, though.
I would probably suggest contemporary who sounds nothing like Debussy but is often lumped with him Maurice Ravel. For a piece that sounds kind of like the impressionist aesthetic, I suggest Daphnis et Chloe.
There is so much variety in that time frame. It depends on what you want. I'll try to get you started.
- Witold Lutoslawski: Cello Concerto or Symphony No. 3. There's a collection that's called "The Essential Lutoslawski" that's worth having.
- George Crumb: Makrokosmos and Black Angels are his most famous, but he has many other good pieces like Ancient Voices and Quest.
- The underground rejection of academic music: Look into Bang on a Can. Get their Best of and Compilation albums.
- Elliot Carter: A composer who uses wildly morphing time signatures and set theory to define his music. I would highly suggest listening to the David Starobin version of Shards. That's probably his easiest piece to get (and Starobin's is hands down the best performance out there).
- Henryk Gorecki: He actually broke into pop charts with his Symphony No. 3
- Joan Tower: Ignore her more popular works and go straight to Made in America
- Wendy Carlos: Digital Moonscapes and Beauty in the Beast. Early experimentation with synthesizers
- Wolfgang Rihm: Musique fur drei Streicher
- Luciano Berio: Sequenzas and Sinfonia
- Steve Reich: Piano Phase, Different Trains, Music for 18 Musicians
- Terry Riley: In C, A Rainbow in Curved Air
- John Adams: Short Ride on a Fast Machine, Naive and Sentimental Music, Phrygian Gates
- Lamonte Young: To be Held a Long Time. Young wrote in many styles. What you want to find is his drone music. It's damn near impossible, though.
- David Lang: Child, Cheating, Lying, Stealing, Little Match Girl
Here I go straight to Alban Berg and his operas. If you aren't willing to sit through an entire opera, even if it's shorter than most. There's also the Lyric Suite.
The Russians had the best. I suggest listening to some Prokofiev. He did move in and out of neoclassicism, though.
Left of Cool, Flight of the Cosmic Hippo
I think I might have revealed a bias with my suggestions. Oh well.
edited 4th Apr '11 12:17:54 AM by arks
Video Game Census. Please contribute.Trip Hop
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing...
Math Rock/Math Metal
Giraffes? Giraffes! - More Skin With Milk-Mouth
Avant-prog
maudlin of the Well - Bath
maudlin of the Well - Leaving Your Body Map
dunno if this one counts but it's right up your alley if you want weird shit...
Naked City - Naked City
Grindcore
Napalm Death - Scum
Jazz Fusion
Return to Forever - Hymn of The Seventh Galaxy
Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame
Still looking for bands like Marillion...
edited 4th Apr '11 8:24:45 PM by iamathousandapples
"I could eat a knob at night" - Karl PilkingtonI prefer Third to Dummy, but the latter is definitely easier to get into. As for GYBE!, Lift Your Skinny Fists foots the bill, but so does f#a#∞, if only for the inclusion of "Dead Flag Blues".
edited 6th Apr '11 9:51:45 AM by JHM
I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.I need industrial.
And before you recommend me Swans, Cabaret Voltaire, Skinny Puppy, Throbbing Gristle - stop. I need music with an industrial feel.
The only real example of this I have is Godflesh:
Yeah, it's industrial metal, but it captivates the atmosphere I'm looking for so perfectly. I've never been to Birmingham - described by native Justin Broadrick as a polluted, grey and depressing shithole with factories at every step. Yet Streetcleaner describes it so effectively - even while lacking lyrics targeting it - that I sure as hell don't want to ever end up there (or maybe I do).
I've listened to Greymachine (obviously a JKB side project) a little and it got that feeling too, but it felt kind of unstructured. I need music of this kind that wasn't made by Justin. And that is not necessarily metal.
Why don't the aforementioned groups fit into the above description? Well, at least to me, their music didn't even try to hold up an atmosphere of bleakness and mechanization, even though I actually like some of them.
So I'm asking of you: industrial atmosphere, not labelled with industrial.
edited 7th Apr '11 1:49:16 PM by Litis
More accessible industrial? I'm gonna recommend you Laibach, either WAT or Let It Be.
If that isn't right, Croc Shop might do it, if you need something more ambient try something by Current 93, (I don't know enough about them to recommend specifics though).
The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.If you wants stuff that feels miserable and dingy... Well, you ruled out two groups that could provide that already: Swans and Throbbing Gristle, specifically Body To Body, Job To Job and Best Of... Volume I. The former is sludgy, visceral, and strangely mechanical; the latter is much more abstract and diffuse, but just as oppressive and alienating. To compare to Godflesh: One is Streetcleaner but edgier, the other is Pure but more nebulous.
Just a disclaimer, however: The Throbbing Gristle release in question actually predates The Second Annual Report, and is therefor impossible to find a physical copy of. Digitally, however... It's fairly easily come across.
On a related note, I might also recommend Mirror's Die Spiegelmanufaktur. While perhaps not of this vein per se, you may well enjoy it. Think ambient music for abandoned factories on the moon.
edited 7th Apr '11 2:00:38 PM by JHM
I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.@Litis: Completely off topic - but I live in Birmingham, and some parts of it (the south and far north) are actually quite nice. The city centre has both nice bits and really, really horrid bits, and as soon as you stray north of the centre, it just goes downhill from there really. But it isn't unremittingly shit, so you'd probably be disappointed if you visited


Prominent releases in most subgenres:
Alternative hip-hop:
Hardcore hip-hop/Gangsta rap:
Underground hip-hop
edited 3rd Apr '11 2:46:32 PM by Wicked223
You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!