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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#251: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:48:08 AM

That sounds sort of like what Public Enemy did...

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#252: Mar 19th 2011 at 12:17:36 PM

????

I'm not knowledgeable on Bombsquad's techniques, but I thought that was just regular sampling (albeit, very claustrophobic sampling)

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#253: Mar 19th 2011 at 12:41:09 PM

In an interview with the New York Daily News, Shocklee noted that the album's dynamic sound was inspired by Chuck D's rapping prowess, stating "Chuck's a powerful rapper. We wanted to make something that could ­sonically stand up to him".[8] Of his own contributions to its production, Shocklee cited himself as being the arranger and noted that he had "no interest in linear songs".[10] When using records for sampling, Shocklee stated that he'd sometimes put them on the ground and stomp on them if they sounded too "clean."[10] Hank referred to Chuck D as being the person who'd find all the vocal samples, Eric Sadler as "the one with the musical talent," and noted that his brother, Keith Shocklee, "knew a lot of the breakbeats and was the sound-effects master."[10] Shocklee's sentiments were reinforced by Chuck D while explaining the group's working methods during production. "Eric was the musician, Hank was the antimusician. Eric did a lot of the [drum] programming, [Hank's brother] Keith was the guy who would bring in the feel."[3] For his contributions to the production side, Chuck stated that he "would scour for vocal samples all over the Earth. I would name a song, tag it, and get the vocal samples."[3] Chuck D also noted the productiveness of Sadler and Shocklee's differing approaches to the creative process. "The friction between Hank and Eric worked very well. Hank would put a twist on Eric's musicianship and Eric's musicianship would put a twist on Hank."[9]

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#254: Mar 19th 2011 at 12:41:24 PM

What makes sampling claustrophobic?

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JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
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#255: Mar 19th 2011 at 12:43:55 PM

[up][up] Similar, but with the crucial difference being that Oval takes the basic concept Beyond the Impossible through sheer medium abuse.

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#256: Mar 19th 2011 at 5:07:12 PM

Interesting, but I don't know if stomping on a record and literally shredding it are really the same thing.

arks: Lots of sounds packed closely together, often all playing at once.

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JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
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#257: Mar 19th 2011 at 5:16:37 PM

Also, something with a tightly-packed frequency range at high volume that isn't outright brickwalled can be claustrophobic, i.e. most Public Enemy recordings. I like it, though...

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#258: Mar 21st 2011 at 7:35:30 AM

Artists:

  • Joe Satriani
  • Red Hot Chili Peppers
  • Steve Vai
  • Warpaint

Genres:

  • Blues

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#259: Mar 21st 2011 at 7:42:37 AM

Warpaint just have one EP (Exquisite Corpse) and one album (The Fool) out, and they're both great.

merton defiance from my heart to yours. Since: May, 2009
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#260: Mar 21st 2011 at 11:43:29 AM

Blues is kind of a massive genre. Any specific styles you're after?

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Alichains Since: Aug, 2010
#261: Mar 21st 2011 at 11:50:25 AM

Ah...Red Hot Chili Peppers, they have a long history. It all depends on what your looking for.

Freaky Styley and Uplift Mofo Party Plan are good choices for the EMI years. Freaky Styley is probably their most Funk oriented album, being produced by George Clinton. Uplift Mofo Party plan is the only album where all four founding members were on. (Hillel Slovak wasn't on the debut and Jack Irons wasn't on that or Freaky Styley).

Mother's Milk is probably the heaviest album and marks the debut of John Frusciantne and Chad Smith. It's also their breakthrough album. I actually like this one the least, but ymmv.

Blood Sugar Sex Magick is often considered their best overall album and has 2 of their most famous tracks (Under the Bridge and Give it Away.

One Hot Minute is their black sheep album. It's their trippiest and rivals Mother's milk as their heaviest. YMMV will vary with this album, although I find a number of the songs on here are quite good. It's also the only album with Dave Navarro on Guitar

Californication Production aside, This marks the point where John F stops playing like Hillel and finds his own style.

Well. I hope that helps.

edited 3rd Apr '11 6:01:32 PM by Alichains

AsTheAnointed Since: Jan, 2010
#262: Mar 21st 2011 at 12:15:58 PM

SATCH WOO

Surfing With The Alien
The Extremist
Strange Beautiful Music
Is There Love In Space?

All four are amazing albums. If you want more recent stuff check out Professor Satchafunkilus and the Musterion Of Rock; for something a bit more electronically-flavoured, try Engines Of Creation.

Joe Satriani is definitely one of my all-time favourite musicians.

edited 21st Mar '11 12:16:11 PM by AsTheAnointed

Thenamelesssamurai from Atlanta, Georgia Since: Nov, 2010
#263: Mar 21st 2011 at 12:49:14 PM

For Steve Vai: Check out Passion and Warfare, The Ultra Zone, and Real Illusions: Reflections. The G3 Live in Tokyo album is good for getting both Steve's and Satch's performances, so check that out too.

edited 21st Mar '11 12:49:36 PM by Thenamelesssamurai

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#264: Mar 21st 2011 at 5:56:01 PM

Anyone know any Skweee....songs, I guess. It's not really an album-oriented genre from what I've seen.

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#265: Mar 21st 2011 at 10:17:44 PM

also, Jam Bands in general and Phish in particular, please.

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JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
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#266: Mar 21st 2011 at 10:27:08 PM

The only thing I've ever really enjoyed (or bothered to listen to in depth) by Phish is their debut, Junta. It's rather quirky.

One the more eccentric end, I can never recommend Can enough, especially Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi. Though Monster Movie has what may be the best demonstration of the group's raw jamming ability, "Yoo Doo Right", it is horrendously mixed. Still, cool.

Wade through some live Grateful Dead material and you're bound to find something interesting, though you'll want to ask an expert; thems is murky there waters...

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#267: Mar 21st 2011 at 10:33:54 PM

Oooh, I love Can.

...I haven't listened to them in a long time, though. Damn.

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#268: Mar 22nd 2011 at 7:19:09 PM

Where should I start with Devin Townsend?

I guess it is.
steampowered Phonomancer Since: Jun, 2010
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#269: Mar 22nd 2011 at 10:54:05 PM

What's the best Aphex Twin album to start with?

edit: some Moby would be cool too.

edited 22nd Mar '11 11:02:43 PM by steampowered

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#270: Mar 22nd 2011 at 10:59:25 PM

I'd say... Richard D. James Album.

Litis from Israel Since: Jul, 2009
#271: Mar 23rd 2011 at 1:54:25 AM

What's the best Aphex Twin album to start with?

...Okay, we have to find some kind of witty catchphrase to retort this perpetual question with. Like... "someone please SAW me in half before my pRejuDice against Justin Bieber takes over and I buy a ticket to Canada". Wow, that was terrible.

*sigh* RDJ Album or SAW 85-92.

Moby: Play. I haven't listened to the rest of his albums - discovered more interesting electronic music since then - but I know Play is pretty damn accessible and quite varied stylistically.

^ hay Zudak you like teh new seefeels?

edited 23rd Mar '11 2:11:25 AM by Litis

Lordnecronus dOOOOM from Wales Since: Sep, 2009
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#272: Mar 23rd 2011 at 2:44:08 AM

Where should I start with Devin Townsend?

Start with Ziltoid the Omniscient or Accelerated Evolution.

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#273: Mar 23rd 2011 at 7:48:57 AM

[up][up]I actually haven't listened to their latest yet. I just found out about them the other day. Dunno how I went so long without hearing any of their stuff, it's bloody brilliant. I made it through most of Succour last night, so maybe I'll make it to Seefeel by tonight?

edited 23rd Mar '11 7:49:37 AM by Zudak

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#274: Mar 23rd 2011 at 12:58:18 PM

Genres:

  • Industrial (i think i asked for this one already)
  • Ambient music

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JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
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#275: Mar 23rd 2011 at 1:21:44 PM

I already did a little list of industrial stuff worth looking into on the first or second page. If you'd like, you can supplement The Second Annual Report with 20 Jazz Funk Greats; it's much easier on unaccustomed ears, if marginally less earth-shattering. Also, here are a few that I missed which I probably should have listed:

  • Coil, Scatology — Not quite as superb as Horse Rotorvator, but just as important.
  • Dome, Dome 1 & 2 — Punk rock's answer to conceptual art.
  • Nurse With Wound, Homotopy To Marie — This or A Chance Meeting...
  • Whitehouse, Erector — They call it "sonic terrorism" for a reason.
  • :zoviet*france:, Hessian — Where ambient first met industrial.*

As for ambient, to be flagrantly obvious (relatively), the best place to start is with Brian Eno, in particular Music For Airports.

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