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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#101: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:12:44 PM

No, I'm sorry, this is way off topic. Drop it, now.

You can make another thread if you want to discuss how much you think America fails.

edited 24th Jan '11 6:13:27 PM by BobbyG

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#102: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:14:07 PM


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#103: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:14:12 PM


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#104: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:16:27 PM


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saladofstones :V from Happy Place Since: Jan, 2011
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#105: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:16:41 PM

Moving on from this little tangent, I support the American dream a lot so that's it I guess.

Well he's talking about WWII when the Chinese bomb pearl harbor and they commuted suicide by running their planes into the ship.
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#107: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:19:56 PM


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#108: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:21:48 PM


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#110: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:25:11 PM


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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#112: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:34:47 PM

<mod hat ON>

Congratulations, Raw. You've just gotten another thread locked by refusing to stay on topic.

I'll reopen it in 24 hours.

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#113: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:36:36 PM

Didn't you read my last post? It was On-Topic. The second paragraph tied all loose ends. It's called meandering, a conversation is allowed to do that in order to attack the main topic from a new angle.

edited 24th Jan '11 6:37:30 PM by RawPower

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#114: Jan 25th 2011 at 9:56:11 PM

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It's unlocked. Keep it on the topic.

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edited 25th Jan '11 9:56:17 PM by Madrugada

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
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#115: Jan 25th 2011 at 10:02:10 PM

I find it funny that Americans sometimes think that being able to be comfortable and raise a family in a nice environment is a uniquely American desire. Fun fact the "Australian Dream" is actually a bit more narrow, just owning your home.

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#116: Jan 25th 2011 at 10:17:42 PM

You mean as Private Property, no mortrages?

Depending on the city, I wouldn't say that dream is narrower...

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#117: Jan 26th 2011 at 7:12:15 AM

The American Dream is supposed to be different from similar dreams in other countries by being so focused on the individual. Many pages back someone expressed surprise that Americans don't like hierarchies. It's not just about becoming more comfortable, it's about becoming individually independent, which puts a different spin on it.

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#118: Jan 26th 2011 at 7:17:04 AM

[up]Becoming truly independent is impossible. Unless you want to be a hermit who dresses with animal pelts and has regressed to the nelithic, some reliance on modern technology, provided by you fellow man, is indispensable even if you want to be a freaking poacher living in the wildrerness alone with no infrastructure whatsoever even electricity.

Besides, even if that much is possible, it is

  • Stupidly uncomfortable
  • Unsustainable: if everyone did it, the USA would lose most of its population in a couple of months. Due to STARVATION. AND DISEASE.

edited 26th Jan '11 7:19:52 AM by RawPower

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#119: Jan 26th 2011 at 7:22:35 AM

Hence why we call it a dream, it's an ideal, not a reality. Sort of like searching for the perfect dessert.

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#120: Jan 26th 2011 at 7:25:50 AM

Offtopic. (It was about desserts, yogurt especially).

edited 26th Jan '11 8:10:24 AM by RawPower

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Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
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#121: Jan 26th 2011 at 8:57:05 AM

Since (difficult as it can be) you can own your own house does that technically mean it's not a dream? Maybe it should be referred to as the "Australian Goal"?

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myrdschaem Since: Dec, 2010
#122: Jan 26th 2011 at 9:32:45 AM

I wasn't aware any other nation besides the US had some sort of "dream".

RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#123: Jan 26th 2011 at 1:26:14 PM

If you call a "dream" what everyone strives to get when they immigrate... the French dream would be: getting good social services, free health coverage, good security thanks to efficient police work, the right to vote in a functioning democracy, the chance to study in public higher education institutions (the best universities in Europe are public and rather cheap) and get a good job where people respect you... And, well, they won't get that if they immigrated illegally, but their chiodren will, just by being born there. Same for Spain and even more so for Germany. Don't know about the UK though. And nobody goes to Scotireland, it is full of Scotirish people.

edited 26th Jan '11 1:26:29 PM by RawPower

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#124: Jan 26th 2011 at 1:29:37 PM

Uh... Glasgow is in the UK.

Not sure what the "UK Dream" would be, but I guess along the lines of the French one.

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#125: Jan 26th 2011 at 1:32:34 PM

[up]Hollywood Atlas meets Affectionate Parody. Don't expect malice (or bigotry, or just plain ignorance) from Raw Power. At least not factual ignorance. Me having never experienced racism yet being part of the Acceptable Ethnic Targets, I tend to use N-Word Privileges where they don't belong. I still need to work on that.

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