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The word "noob" has become "newbie".

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Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
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#26: Jan 12th 2011 at 12:04:28 AM

That's a...pointless change...

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#27: Jan 12th 2011 at 12:08:04 AM

Oh, boy! OK, longer explanation:

I Am Not Making This Up was getting used for anything even remotely unusual to the point that it became meaningless. The only thing the pothole ever added to any example was the reader sarcastically intoning, "You know, I wasn't going to believe you there, but . . ."

Hence, by order of the Fast One, it was cut. The page on math was saved as Trivia.Math. The fiction examples were moved to "Not Making This Up" Disclaimer. Use of the new trope for anything other than fiction examples is heavily frowned upon.

edited 12th Jan '11 3:33:06 AM by Ironeye

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#28: Jan 12th 2011 at 12:13:31 AM

Well...in this universe we're living in, a game called Monster Hunter really did censor the word "After" making communication rather...misleading several times. ("***** this, help me out" will make you unpopular in your party real fast if you don't explain yourself fast enough)...

Why do germans hate that word enough to get it censored in an english translation of a japanese game?

edited 12th Jan '11 12:14:15 AM by Signed

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#29: Jan 12th 2011 at 12:20:48 AM

[up][up]Well that makes things clearer. I was confused when I potholed to NMTUD and it seemed to be specifically about uses of it in media.

EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#30: Jan 12th 2011 at 3:24:06 AM

Hylarn: ...This is entirely backwards. 'Newbie' became 'newb' became 'noob'/'n00b' (which further became 'nub' in some circles). They all originally meant the same thing
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Eric,

Dynamod -Nudge- from Eagle Land Since: Jan, 2011
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#31: Jan 12th 2011 at 3:28:17 AM

erm... no?

noob means someone who is mentally deficient for playing said videogame, AKA a retard. its negative. they insist they are right when they dont know shit and generally ruin the game for everyone.

newb means someone who just picked up the game, not knowing anything about it. its neutral. they usually will listen to someone for advice and will read up before making any mistakes.

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Ana Since: Jan, 2001
#32: Jan 12th 2011 at 3:53:30 AM

Why do germans hate that word enough to get it censored in an english translation of a japanese game?

After = Anus. If you happen to be a doctor. This isn't a swear word, no one outside of the medical field even uses it in day-to-day conversation and it has been at least 10 years since I've seen someone snickering after seeing a box of After Eights on the table. So yeah, I doubt anyone in Germany was responsible for that. This looks like preemptively censoring something to get a favorable rating without having the slightest clue, like throwing a few random swearwords in Google's babelfish and blacklisting literally everything that comes out.

edited 12th Jan '11 3:56:44 AM by Ana

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#33: Jan 12th 2011 at 6:10:49 AM

Like a bunch of people here, I tend to stick to the same notion of "noob vs. newb", though it wasn't exactly clear to me until I read it on Ctrl Alt Del (rhaah can't find the link).

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#34: Jan 12th 2011 at 6:28:03 AM

It's "n00b", noob. grin

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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#35: Jan 12th 2011 at 6:29:47 AM

I d0n't d0 l34sp34k, n0 th4nks.

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
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#36: Jan 12th 2011 at 6:32:47 AM

Where do you think "noob/n00b" came from?

Oh, missed the Hypocritical Humor hotlink.

edited 12th Jan '11 6:33:44 AM by JAF1970

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#37: Jan 12th 2011 at 6:32:47 AM

noob and newbie are the same things. It's just that people use noob when they want to be nastier. Like the way swears have different levels of effectiveness.

JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
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#38: Jan 12th 2011 at 6:34:06 AM

Shut up, haXXorz.

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#39: Jan 12th 2011 at 6:46:39 AM

It's all part of the general evolution of language. As stated, "newbie" originally meant someone who was new at something. Newbies may quit, develop over time into good players, or devolve into noobs or scrubs. Their tendency to do the latter is, mind you, largely related to how friendly other players in the game are to them.

A noob is someone who continues to display newbie traits such as a lack of skill while insisting that they know what they are doing. A scrub is a noob who insists that players displaying a higher level of actual skill are cheating and should play down to their level.

Nowadays, however, "noob" is simply shorthand for anyone you don't like in a game.

edited 12th Jan '11 6:47:01 AM by Fighteer

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Dynamod -Nudge- from Eagle Land Since: Jan, 2011
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#40: Jan 12th 2011 at 6:48:55 AM

[up] You make is sound like Pokemon.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#41: Jan 12th 2011 at 7:06:37 AM

^^ Granted, infinites are pretty cheap.

Dynamod -Nudge- from Eagle Land Since: Jan, 2011
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#42: Jan 12th 2011 at 7:11:17 AM

on the other hands, scrubs have no place at a tournament. a serious game is like war man. anything goes.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#43: Jan 12th 2011 at 7:12:55 AM

But they're so boring to watch...

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#44: Jan 12th 2011 at 8:06:01 AM

I'm using the terms relative to my World of Warcraft experience, but they are fairly universal. Scrubs tend to exist more in PvP than PvE, although noobs can be found in both environments.

edited 12th Jan '11 8:06:09 AM by Fighteer

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