Yes, this should go on Trivia, along with Hey Its That Guy, Hey Its That Voice, and What Could Have Been.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"That's just a lot of organisation. Many tropes have those. We only want an icon if we are trying to get everything off the works pages and off of an example index and onto individual pages for each work. We don't want that with Shout-Out. We would like it in the trivia namespace though.
That sounds like the most logical solution.
If there are a lot of Shout-outs (so much that they might drown out the other trivia tropes in a normal list) it's always possible to make a seperate folder for the shout-outs.
That's actually what I did in this (sandboxed) Trivia page for a Works page I'm cleaning up. Menage A 3 Trivia
Everything can be found on the Internet... except common sense.See also this thread
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EDIT: I disagree with Shout-Out going in Trivia. It's a deliberate narrative device in which an author inserts a reference to something else.
edited 12th Jul '11 2:33:13 PM by MangaManiac
It has no meaning within the work, though; only when it's applied to a context outside the work.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'd argue that some series make a living on Shout Outs (though I cannot name any right now, I'll try and find some later), and it is important to the series. To ignore the Shout Outs is to ignore a vital part of a work (admittedly, it depends on the work in question), and it is an objective trope that happens within the work.
Still, Shout-Out's not currently marked as Trivia. If it is classed for Trivia (at least for now), that should probably be changed.
Well, if it only has meaning when outside context is applied, shouldn't we move all the Symbolism Tropes to Trivia?
Fight smart, not fair.Not the best example, but an Affectionate Parody doesn't make sense out-of-context if you didn't know what it was parodying. I'd still argue that it wouldn't be Trivia.
I know, not a great example.
Well... if it matters for understanding the work, then it isn't Trivia, I suppose.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I would like to state that any Shout-Out example that doesn't explain the shout out should get cut for X Just X though.
Fight smart, not fair.Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, Hayate No Gotoku, Negima, Pani Poni Dash, (hell things by Studio SHAFT in general), Lucky Star, Baka To Test To Shoukanjuu, Ore No Imouto Ga Konna Ni Kawaii Wake Ga Nai, and Abridged Series are the ones that come to mind right this second.
Big Bang Theory as well.
edited 13th Jul '11 8:09:55 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!

Shout-Out is a trope where numerous examples can be found per work, especially if the work has Reference Overdosed syndrome. I wonder if Shout-Out should have a namespace where it shows show's main Shout Outs to other series and also other series which reference this show.