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FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
I was offered this world
#14901: Jun 7th 2019 at 3:56:25 AM

Richter needed to be playable for more than 30 minutes in the whole game. And Tenebie should have been a fully playable 'monster'. Along with all of the 8 centurions. Then again, Symphonia 2 was a no budget game, so we could not get nice things.

Both Symphonia 2 and Berseria start with a revenge plot, but while Lloyd gets off the hook very early Artorius only ADDS to the list of 'reasons this guy must die' the longer you play. That's the difference.

Have some more 'Tales of Hearts Abridged':

Lignatore fortress: the team wanted to sneak in with Amethyst's airship, but the scoundrel poisoned their drinks and handed them to Kornerupine. After threats of torture, fatso shows them an android from the Age of Stones. Innes saw the poison thing coming and faked sleep, so she rescues us and we pursue the bad guy to the fortress' roof, where we make him spit the spirune of Anger. Before they can reinstall it into Kohak the android arrives and attacks everyone. Innes and Kohaku are separated from the group and everyone agrees to meet at Garnet's place.

Douz Mois road: the party meets with merchant family Albert, Cinnabar and Annabel. Purple android Kunzite catches up to them and joins. Shing confirms what the robot says: Richia lives inside Kohaku's heart. Kunzite is kind of an asshole to everyone but his 'master'.

Edited by FlightMaster on Jun 7th 2019 at 1:37:55 PM

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#14902: Jun 7th 2019 at 4:08:44 AM

Gee nice of you to skip over the bit where Hisui punches Berylk because he's a raging fuckface

Anyway before I fall back into that, yeah Symphonia 2's shit budget held it back but it still feels like a waste to noyl have playable Richter for like a second or two.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#14903: Jun 7th 2019 at 9:48:54 AM

The only good character in Symphonia 2 was Tenebrae. I didn't even remember who Emil was or that the blond guy was named Marta.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#14904: Jun 7th 2019 at 10:08:34 AM

Tenebrae should have been playable at the very least, but I also think the monsters needed to be playable for the gameplay to really shine.

Oissu!
SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14905: Jun 7th 2019 at 10:27:06 AM

[up]x4 Also who did they think they were fooling with that "Lloyd is evil" thing? It really should've been resolved earlier than it was.

FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#14906: Jun 7th 2019 at 11:05:12 AM

The revenge plot would have worked much better for sequels of Abyss, Vesperia, Graces or Xillia. Jade has killed many people, directly AND indirectly. Yuri might be mistaken for the Dark Enforcer. I am sure Malik / Hubert had to do a lot of questionable shit under the rule of Richard's uncle / Strahta's Evil Chancellor. And let's not forget that Gaius was the prequel's Final Boss!

But Lloyd? You mean the Biggest Dumbest Idiot Hero in the History of Mankind? Up there with paragons like Stahn, Asbel or Sorey? Sorry, game writers.

Then again, things like blackmail do exist. Right Anise? (Anise: Shut up.) Or a more esoteric way of evil, like spirit possesion. Right, Richard? Shirley? Eugene? (Them: *killer gazes*) This topic has lots of meat.

Oh, some more Hearts progress.

Straga, take 2: Chalcy's father Labrador tells his son to go to Prinseur to 'prepare for war'. The knight and his big friend find Innes and Kohaku on the streets and confiscate the spirune. Shing and co arrive, along with Empress(!) Paraiba Marin, and blondie gets so angry that he hurts the lady. We go inside Chalcy's heart and fight Byrox to retake the spirune. Soldiers arrive and brand Chalcy as traitor for hurting the empress. We escape, but the army seals all exits...

('Wanted' posters descriptions for all characters. [lol])

  • Shing: 'soma: sword. Kiddy face. Acts like a brat.'
  • Hisui: 'soma: crossbows. Rude and obsessed with his sister.'
  • Galland: 'soma: axe. He is old'.
  • Unknown armored man: 'soma: swords. Cold and antisocial.'
  • Kohaku: 'soma: baton. Cute, but violent. Kicks like a mule.'
  • Innes: 'soma: unknown. Big melons. They bounce. Witnesess could not gather more data due to being Distracted by the Sexy'.
  • Beryl: 'soma: broom. Wears a funny hat. Looks 10 years old. Probably the weakest of the bunch.'

Straga sewers: ugh. The lovable Sewer Level. Garnet faked handing us to the army and revealed a passage to escape. After a much shorter(?) trek compared to the DS version of the same place, we emerge far from the city. Kunzite discovers that Shing broke Kokahu's heart and proceeds to beat the crap out of him. Boss battle ended, Kohaku blames herself to save Shing and everyone finally accepts Richia's existance.

Edited by FlightMaster on Jun 7th 2019 at 8:15:29 PM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#14907: Jun 7th 2019 at 12:16:17 PM

Tenebrae is basically a monster so it would still have worked. Hell they didn't even do right by the other ones who don't get a form, much less a proper appearance. Even Aqua got a generic monster form as a boss instead of something more appealing to fit her appearance.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#14908: Jun 7th 2019 at 4:06:50 PM

Uhhhhhhhhhh...

Don't open until E3?

It's (apparently) a brand new Tales game: Tales of Arise

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jun 7th 2019 at 7:07:36 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#14909: Jun 7th 2019 at 4:18:15 PM

WHY. ISN’T. IT. FOR. SWITCH!?

[down]Sorry about that. Fixed.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jun 7th 2019 at 5:25:07 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#14910: Jun 7th 2019 at 4:19:28 PM

[up] Dude! Spoilers! (...Technically? I think?)

Edited by dood9780 on Jun 7th 2019 at 4:20:34 AM

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14911: Jun 7th 2019 at 5:04:48 PM

Finally! Can’t wait to see the actual announcement.

Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
MINE!
#14912: Jun 7th 2019 at 5:52:37 PM

Wow this looks gorgeous!

Edited by Kiefen on Jun 7th 2019 at 2:58:31 PM

RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#14913: Jun 7th 2019 at 6:18:20 PM

Looks like Monster Hunter.

Also, any news of that mobile game?

EDIT: Found more screenshots of the new game. https://imgur.com/a/TH9JoeL

Edited by RedRob on Jun 7th 2019 at 9:30:47 AM

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#14914: Jun 8th 2019 at 4:44:39 AM

Well, I figured they'd go back to a male protagonist. That and he looks a lot like Ludger which worries me and makes me think they're at the "reuse character designs" stage. That said the mask hopefully suggests some sort of horrible deformity or shameful secret. That or surprise its daemonblight and this is yet anothe Zestyverse game. Especially with not-Lailah there.

On the bright side not only is this hopefully a new graphics engine (and it bloody well better be) but its the first Tales game to not use a fake "-ia" word since Graces.

too bad they didn't go with my post-apocalypse hokuto no ken world idea tho

Edited by MightyKombat on Jun 8th 2019 at 12:46:43 PM

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Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
MINE!
#14915: Jun 8th 2019 at 7:11:50 AM

Going by the plot synopsis, this could be yet another distant Prequel to the Zesteria-verse, if that other planet is the celestial realm.

SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14916: Jun 8th 2019 at 7:38:05 AM

Or a distant sequel where they fix the bullshit that Berseria's bonus dungeon brought up. Or at least address it. That's the only reason I can see for going back to that setting.

Hopefully it's unrelated, though. Better to do something new.

Hey, wait a sec. They already used an "A" title for a main series game. Guess they're not bothering with using different letters anymore.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Jun 8th 2019 at 7:47:56 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#14917: Jun 8th 2019 at 7:50:59 AM

I'd look forward to a conclusion, especially of the Celestial Realm is on the verge of losing the bet despite everything they did to win.

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FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#14918: Jun 8th 2019 at 8:04:32 AM

[up] Watch the cameo heroes be the ones to actually crush whatever cheating Cheater Cheetah rigged the 'bet' in favor of those jerkfaces.cool

Is that even a Tales game? Looks too... WRPG to me.

I WANT IT FOR SWITCH TOO! *pregnant pause* Oh wait. I do have a PS 4. I keep forgeting.

Also, have this progress report:

Scherehera desert: we must go through this place to reach Chalcy. Shing and Kohaku get separated from the rest and get lost in a sandstorm. They spend the night alone *wink* and get reunited with the others just before the HUGEST sandworm in the universe has a chance to gobble them down. They make it spit a spirune... and Kohaku is able to feel Happyness again.

Argh! This motherhugging Sandworm is the WORST! I swear it's the Hearts' version of Gattuso. Strong, wide area attacks, spends half the time underground and/or dashing across the battefield interrupting your mages, summons infinite small worms and is only weak to Water, which means Beryl's piddly Ice needle (which dogdes 90% of the time.) or Innes' artes (which just sweats off with his rock solid physical defense.) And I still earned 8 grade... (0_0)

Edited by FlightMaster on Jun 8th 2019 at 5:08:05 PM

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SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14919: Jun 8th 2019 at 8:07:53 AM

[up][up] If that's what it was addressing, I'd be fine with another game. I don't see why they'd go back for anything else. Assuming that's what this is, anyway.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Jun 8th 2019 at 8:08:35 AM

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#14920: Jun 8th 2019 at 8:18:42 AM

They already used an "A" title for a main series game. Guess they're not bothering with using different letters anymore.

Not exactly. Abyss has always been referred to as "the Abyss" in all official Japanese material and is abbreviated as TotA. They've been very consistent in never omitting the article.

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SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14921: Jun 8th 2019 at 8:20:04 AM

So that does make it different? I'd been wondering about that. Guess it does fit, then.

...so are we just talking openly about this now?

Edited by SapphireBlue on Jun 8th 2019 at 8:20:35 AM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#14922: Jun 8th 2019 at 10:12:56 AM

But then that means Abyss doubles up with Tales of the Tempest

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FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#14923: Jun 9th 2019 at 7:43:09 AM

I will leave this here. Pay it no mind until E3 is over...

Prinseur: The party gets attacked by zerom'ized soldiers cuz a priest accused them. It's a mole! Kunzite saves Annabel and she becomes robosexual. Later, some asshole orphans make Beryl fall in a trap and Peridot captures her (no wonder they are assholes with such a... role model.) only to tell the others a challenge: Chalcy wants to fight Shing, win to get a spirune, lose and reveal Kohaku's heart's secret. Kunzite will NOT reveal anything and almost chops her down right there. The kids comically try to hit him... to no avail cuz he is (an) IRON MAN.

Saintex cathedral: lots of knights who are good to practice Counters. The puzzle is not very inspired: find four colored statues and put them in slots in the pipe organ. Now the boss IS interesting, Chalcy's team vs ours. Each of them is strong enough to be their own boss!

I had to control Hisui sometimes for Overlimit > instant Nurses. Once Pinkie pie went down the battle was much less chaotic, so Big Guy was next and when blondie fell I won an amazing THIRTY ONE grade! Chalcy hands Kohaku the spirune of Dreams and I was happy for a battle that felt rightfully hard and not bullshit hard like the stupid sandworm.

The army attacks the holy city, looking for 'that traitor, son of Akerman'. The mole opens the gates and zerom'ized soldiers invade the streets. Our heroes look for Peri's foster siblings and we discover that Zeroms that completely eat the preys' heart turn to stone. General Grossular is furious at Incarose when he discovers this, but no more than Labrador seeing his old friend tempted by that evil witch's promises of power.

The orphans tell us how to escape the city after Annabel becomes Chalcy'sexual on top of fawning over Kunzite. They distract non-zombie soldiers with a hymm. Out of the city walls, Chalcy joins as playable after increasing our Overlimit to 3 and teaching us Mystic Artes.

Edited by FlightMaster on Jun 9th 2019 at 4:47:53 PM

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#14924: Jun 9th 2019 at 11:55:39 AM

So on my internet trawls, I stumbled upon art of Ragna doing Velvet doggydoggy. Surprised it took this long.

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lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#14925: Jun 9th 2019 at 2:39:18 PM

Tales of Arise is real and looks stunning.


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