Future Crazy Cat Lady
I might not agree with you on all points but I think you're damn entertaining to read.
(I can also agree with you about the liberating feeling that comes with throwing off what you've been told to believe, but OTC still makes me nervous so I'll leave it at that. ;)
Erm, anyway... I guess the big key to our success is that we're both big nerds and love discussing the metaphysical ins and outs of the universe. Him and I are both skeptical of the more... mystical elements of each others' religions, but otherwise we both believe we're worshipping the same Big Thingy- just through different means. Finding common ground is a factor as well- Gary agrees that all things are potentially imbued with divinity, while I agree that Jesus is a pretty cool guy. inevitable meme here
On top of everything else, I'm sure the little Pratchett fan in him, buried deep down in the Unseen University library of his soul, occasionally goes "heheheh my wife's a witch, that's cool." It's more of an Incredibly Lame Pun than actual theological truth, and he would never admit it... but I'll bet he's thought it before. (Also- I'm crap at headology, lucky for him.
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^ Girl, this could be so fucking awesome! You need to work on the headology bit if you don't want to be a wet hen forever though. Seriously, that'd be great.
So, OP, what do you think? They seem to have found a nice approach. If you're in a denomination that's too strict you know you can change to something softer and more accomodating, right? I mean, it don't need be Jesus to save you, people have been saving themselves for long, long before, unless you're implying all Native Americans before colonization went straight to Hellfire...
Yes, it's new year and I'm feeling nice. Also, the above post felt very soothing too (see that's the headology right there! You have a talent! Not all headology is being pushy and rude and stubborn like that old weathered crone... Whatever happened to Eskarina anyway?).
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Future Crazy Cat Lady
Thanks, dude- feelin' the love.
Maybe I'm a better headologist than I thought (enough to fool myself, perhaps?
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First, that's the coolest fucking avatar ever and I'm saving it to my computer.
Second, I think Raw's feelin' the jello shots, big time. Either that or he was just in a pissy mood before. Either way I'm happy.
Back on topic, that... actually seems like a really amazing idea. You think we should actually sit down and discuss everything rather than avoid the topic?
I mean, I already know pretty much everything about Christianity (After all I was a preacher's kid) except Catholicism (Which she isn't part of.) But I think it would be a good experience to actually sit down and metaphorically make a compare/contrast chart.
My name is Cu Chulainn. Beside the raging sea I am left to moan. Sorrow I am, for I brought down my only son.You'd be missing out on a lot. Some Christians are Captain Carrot levels of awesome.
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'''YOU SEE THIS DOG I'M PETTING? THAT WAS COURAGE WOLF.Cute, isn't he?
Future Crazy Cat Lady
yay I didn't kill this thread! Or the survey one.
Anyway, I've always liked non-pushy Christians- the truly devout wear their faith like a cloak, and there's a nice *- well, a nice aura about them. I feel immediately at ease when they come through my checkout lane (and that's saying something during the retail Christmas season)... also worth noting that nobody who openly wears a crucifix has ever given me crap about religious anything (and I do openly wear a pentacle, albeit a small modest one).
Mind you, this may have a lot to do with living in the New England area (high level of college-educated people, huge influx of foreign tech workers, politically libertarian, and right by that Salem on top of everything else.) If I lived in, say, Missouri (where half the billboards I saw seemed to be about "Rapture!" *), then I would probably remove my pentacle and only bring up the subject if mentioned. (Mind you, The Witch's Voice does list stuff down in the South, so I doubt it's nearly as bad down there are Hollywood makes it look like.)
(ETA: Thanks for the avatar love way up there! Him and Harry Dresden are my two boyfriends right now; my husband is surprisingly tolerant of this. Also, if Raw has jello shots then he should share.
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edited 9th Jan '11 10:46:49 AM by Mamanerd
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Future Crazy Cat Lady
It's sorta like aspic, but sweet. Cherry Jello looks like the blobbier versions of Philosopher's Stones, while the type with fruit in it reminds me of that stupid gelatinous cube that lurks in every newbie dungeon and eats first-level paladins for lunch. It's sort of a Memetic Food in America, thanks to Bill Cosby's commercials.
(Again, I apologize for wild off-topicness
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At my church, my pastor made it clear that no Christian may date a non-Christian. Does it ever say this in the Bible? Well, whatever. Anyway, if I were the OP, I'd simply promise to keep an open mind and always search for the right answers. Try saying something along the lines of "If your God is the ultimate truth, how can He not inevitably be at the end of my quest for the truth?" Or, to quote a Phoenix Wright game, "The thruth will always find a way to make itself known."
How about "don't worry, I am a good man, God wouldn't let me go to hell, if he is the One True God then I will inevitably convert, if only in my death bed. As long as I repent and I sincerely believe and lived morally I'm fine, right?"
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There is a passage or two
that deals with this sort of relationships.
Though it's a tad more complex in the Bible and a few of the passages in the link above seem downright paradoxical the way they're used in the site when compared to other parts of the bible. For example, The Bible and same author of the passages mentioned above also said that different religions was not reason for divorce
. Say, if a member of the couple converts or some-such.
It's also worth mentioning that few people can follow EVERYTHING Paul suggests, (unless misogyny is your thing...). He also thought that dudes shouldn't have long hair
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To which I say, "Counter Point."
"No" to the first I'd say, tentative "yes" to the second. He certainly had more rules on how woman should behave then men, and also forbade them from teaching scripture to men if memory serves.
Paul was Jewish before his conversation and spent the years up to that point persecuting the Christians, but Jesus gave him a "knock that shit off" vision and Paul pretty much became Christ fan #1 at that point.
I think theres some residual feelings in all that and he definitely liked the converts and no doubt clashed heads with the Jewish leaders, but I wouldn't call it full blown antisemitism.
edited 10th Jan '11 1:48:25 PM by Justice4243
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Depending on who you ask, that might actually work. Most Christians seem to frown upon it though, and there's also the problem of him potentially dying unexpectedly.
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Odd. I knew the Bible was contradictory at times, but I've never heard of two contradictions being so close together. If Jesus didn't say anything about it, then I'lld assume by default that it's fine.
edited 10th Jan '11 1:41:14 PM by randomtropeloser
Jesus has nothing to say regarding mirages and relationships between different faiths.
I think he may have equated divorce with adultery (regardless of the wronged party) but there's not a ton in the Gospels regarding relationships.
Justice is a joy to the godly, but it terrifies evildoers.Proverbs21:15 FimFiction account.We're pretty sure Timothy is pseudepigraphic and was written in the second century, and that's the one where the "suffer not a woman" comes from. For what it's worth.
Back on topic, I'd go with conscience on this one. The ultimate message is supposed to be love, after all.
edited 10th Jan '11 1:54:55 PM by Pykrete
Nice to know Paul was likely less of a douche by modern day standards. I quite like a bit of his writings even if a few call for a raised eyebrow.
Justice is a joy to the godly, but it terrifies evildoers.Proverbs21:15 FimFiction account.There's a very strong case to be made for Paul being Armoured Closet Gay with a ton of Gayngst and not liking women period, so I don't reccommend listening to anything he says about relationships. Yeah, I know he was a saint, but even saints aren't perfect.
edited 10th Jan '11 3:37:11 PM by Diamonnes
My name is Cu Chulainn. Beside the raging sea I am left to moan. Sorrow I am, for I brought down my only son.I'm not sure about that, but he definitely thought being single was better than being married, which kinda hampers the whole procreating the species issue.
Which is still a pretty good reason to not take relationship advice from the guy.
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