Name ideas for german twin girls born somewhere in 1939-1941? The surname would be Rot.
Their mother is the nazi supervillain and Gestapo agent Adele Siemon/Aryan Maiden, and the father is another nazi supervillain and Wehrmacht soldier Falk Bernhardt Rot/Thunderlight. Characterization-wise Siemon is very similiar to Hans Landa, a manipulative opportunist who doesn't believe in or care about anything and enjoys psychologically tormenting people but puts up a Faux Affably Evil facade. I haven't really decided on details, but Rot on the other hand is pretty mundane, unambituous evil and might not even believe in the nazis' conspiracy theories or their weird mythical shit, and does what he does just out of revanchism, racism, and going along.
It might have been a one-night stand or not, but it was definitely an accident and Siemon isn't happy about having had to keep them (especially since it took her out of the action for several months). Rot is ecstatic to be a father. Neither of them is into the mystic shit, but they might still give the girls names from there because everybody else is?
~*bleh*~I'm trying to think of a good term to denote a class of beings that stands in the middle between a Cyborg (an organism with mechanical parts grafted on) and a Hybrot (a robot with biological parts grafted on) — that is to say, a being that was created from the ground up to be an equal blend of the biological and the mechanical. The way I imagine these beings, they are made of microscopic units that look and act like organic cells (they self-replicate, they carry an analogue to genetic material, etc.), albeit they're composed of inorganic materials that grant them properties that no organic cell is capable of.
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Well, Wikipedia and Wiktionary suggest "biorobot" or its abbreviation, "biot".
References:
Wikipedia: Disambiguation for "Biot"
Wikipedia: "Biorobotics"
Wiktionary: "Biot"
Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Sep 23rd 2023 at 5:15:01 PM
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... What's the logic behind that?
In my experience, "biorobot" is commonly used to denote robots whose bodies just happen to be entirely biological in nature, whether they are naturally born people or have been artificially grown, whether their brains are intact and just happened to have been "reprogrammed" or they have been rendered into Wetware Body hosts for computers/AIs.
That said, looking into your suggestions coincidentally led me to discover "biohybrid" as an existing term for a blend of both biological and non-biological components in a single entity.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/biohybrid
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/biohybrid
That is suboptimal, however, as the word "biohybrid" looks more like it describes a "biological hybrid", which would only make sense either as an adjective to something that is normally non-biological (e.g. "biohybrid robot"), or to denote the original sense of "hybrid" as a noun (i.e. a hybrid of two biological species) in a setting where the concept of a non-biological counterpart to such hybrids is not merely theoretical.
I'm seriously considering the option of repurposing "bionic"note and reinterpreting it as a contraction of "biomechatronic" (which refers to synergistic combination of biological and mechatronic systems), then blending it with "hybrid" to produce "hybionic" (noun: "hybion"; compare bion
). The intent is to contrast against cyborgs and hybrots, which are opposing applications of mechatronicsnote , by emphasizing its nature as a true biological-mechatronic hybrid rather than being primarily one and the other being an "add-on".
What do you think?
Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 23rd 2023 at 8:52:49 PM
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Hmm... I think that some of the sense of "hybrid" feels to me lost without the "r" after the "b".
(I think that I'm making more of a connection to names like "Hyborea" and/or "Hy-Brasil".)
But of course, "hybrionic" doesn't quite work—"bionic" doesn't have an "r"—and honestly sounds more like something to do with embryonic matters...
Regarding the use of "biorobotics", fair enough: I do note that it does seem to be used for something akin to what you mean, and I don't think that I recall the usages that you're referencing—but if it has been so used as you say then I could see it causing confusion.
But what then about the shorter version, "biot"? That already sounds a bit like both "bio" (as in "biology") and "bot" (as in "robot").
Otherwise... if "biorobot" is out, what about a related form, "biobot"?
Hmm... Looking at your extant terms, it's tempting to suggest "hybrorg"—not a "cybernetic organism", nor a "hybrid robot" (I presume that one to be), but a "hybrid organism".
But that doesn't really roll comfortably off of the tongue.
Maybe "hyborg"? While it still lacks the "r" in "hybrid", I think that I may be connecting it more-strongly to artificial life through the familiar suffix "org".
Anyway, those are my thoughts for this post, I think! What do you think?
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Honestly, there are more drastic blends out there that omit far more from one or both of their root words, like hycean (from hydrogen + ocean), blynx (from bobcat + lynx) or pluot (from plum + apricot), so I don't see this as a problem. Not like there are many candidates for the source of the "hy(b)-" prefix to begin with that are as commonly used as "hybrid" is in vernacular English.
Hell, tribrid
exists as a word.
If by "Hyborea" you mean "Hyboria(n)
" from Conan the Barbarian, then it's funny you cited that, because it was derived as a contraction of "Hyperborea
".
I don't like biot because 1) it's a contraction of biological robot, thus inheriting its problems, and 2) it can be easily confused as a noun back-formed from biotic
(meaning "related to life") and thus misinterpreted as a fancy alternative to "organism".
I kinda like "hyborg"; it would almost certainly make most people think "Must be something similar to a cyborg... Maybe hy- comes from 'hybrid', then? A 'hybrid cyborg'... So it's a roughly equal mix of biological and non-biological?", which would be close enough to the truth that the subsequent brief explanation of the term after its first use would be all that it takes for the reader to adjust their deduction's results, and increase the odds of them remembering the intended meaning afterwards.
I would even reinterpret as a contraction of "hybrid biomechatronic organism", so that the explanation fits with the etymology and thus be more easy to remember.
An alternative would be to follow the example of the aforementioned tribrid by contracting "biomechatronic hybrid" into "biomechbrid" or even "biomechrid".
Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 23rd 2023 at 11:42:31 AM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.I think that it was less that it was drastic—as you point out, there are more dramatic omissions in other contractions—but more that it stopped sounding to me like something to do with "hybrid".
I don't think that contractions necessarily inherit the issues of their sources, if they sound like complete words themselves and aren't too obviously contractions.
For what it's worth, it has already been used for an artificial organism—I imagine successfully—in a work, that being Phantom 2040.
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But anyway, if you like "hyborg", then the point is moot!
That was indeed the thinking, as I recall! (Hence my comment that, unlike "hybrionic", it nevertheless suggested to me artificial life.)
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What if Brünhild & Krimhild? Both are in the Ring.
Or Sieghild & Siegfrieda?? The latter might be an actual if rare name?
(Trying to go for Twin Theme Naming here)
~*bleh*~
How about "Rhein & Gold", which would make for a good twin-set of names since they are two parts of one whole and you don't make the connection to the "Das Rheingold" unless you put the two of them together on paper, which would mask the symbolism and not make the source of the name so obvious that it doesn't come off as an "embarrassing" (potentially) one for the girls when they grow up.
And yes, I know that "Gold" is usually used for boys but a girl with a boy's name is not that weird or unusual to begin with so it works.
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"Nanoz"
"Nano" = "Nanomachines"
"Z" = "Zygote" since it is a multi-cell organism made from these nanomachines.
Edited by Trainbarrel on Sep 23rd 2023 at 7:26:54 PM
"If there's problems, there's simple solutions."Marq: "Cybrid" is the first thing that came to mind, but "hyborg" is just that with the components flipped so it seems like it would work just as well.
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ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NOI went to a name site to come up with something for the aforementioned twins (surname Rot). The concept there is that the names would either have the same beginning or the same ending, and/or thematic connection (Brunhild and Krimhild are characters from the Ring opera, Sonnhild means "sun battle" and Isolde "ice battle" so they're sort of opposite).
So, which two to go with? Thoughts?
- Sonnhild(e)note
- Isoldenote
- Mathilde note
- Romilda (old form Rumhilt/Rumhild, can presumably be spelled Romilde)
- Swanhild(a/e)note
- Hildegardnote
- Leutgard / Luitgardnote
- Hiltrud(e)note
- Ermentrud(e) / Ermendrudnote
- Gertrud(e)note
- Wiltrudnote
- Herlevanote
- Herminenote
- Waldeburgnote
- Wigburgnote
- Krimhild(e) / Kriemhild(e) / Kriemhilt / Grimhilt / Grimhild(e?)note
- Brunihild / Brunhild(e) / Brünhild note
- Ortrunnote
- Oddrunnote
- Dagrunnote
- Sigrunnote
- Heidrunnote
Edited by Nukeli on Sep 27th 2023 at 9:13:54 PM
~*bleh*~

"The Wound" sounds nice and simple. I'll even make the full name "Wound National/Memorial Park." Thank you, folks!