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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#18226: Nov 1st 2022 at 9:38:15 PM

So, I’m gonna be that odd person that actually likes what I’ve played of Echoes more than what I’ve played of Prime 1.

Also getting Prime Trilogy digitally on Wii U was a great deal for me when I did it last year because I wasn’t able to make money at that time and getting three Metroid games for $20 is a steal of a price.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#18227: Nov 1st 2022 at 9:59:24 PM

Prime 2 is a game I was kind of lukewarm about my first time through, but on repeat playthroughs, I've actually come to enjoy it a lot more. I'm not quite sure why that is. Maybe its the setting, Aether seems quite different to other places Samus has visited, and the conflict between the Luminoth and the Ing makes for a unique story for the series. I would love to see the Luminoth return in some way in Metroid Prime 4.

My one biggest gripe with Prime 2 thought is that I HATE the Emperor Ing fight. All the phases, but especially the first and last, are so damn finicky and its so easy to waste ammo.

I would say I like 1 and 2 equally, with 3 and little lower than both.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#18228: Nov 1st 2022 at 11:04:23 PM

I really like Prime 2 and it competes with Prime 1 for the top spot in my mind.

My only real gripes are that Chykka takes too long (its first phase should have half the health it currently has) and that in some cases, standing around in a safe zone waiting for it to heal you gets tedious. Also I dislike the ammo system, but with how powerful the Light and Dark Beams were it makes sense.

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HeraldAlberich from Ohio (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#18229: Nov 2nd 2022 at 6:07:01 AM

I'm also fond of Echoes; I borrowed Prime 1 and played it once before buying Echoes new and playing it a whole ton before I ever got to play the first game again. I like the design refinements, especially all the suits, and the way the world is connected compared to the first game.

Even the base Varia Suit looks so much cooler in 2 (and 3) than in 1.

Edited by HeraldAlberich on Nov 2nd 2022 at 9:09:28 AM

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18230: Nov 2nd 2022 at 9:46:51 AM

The story of Aether and everything that happened on it is really interesting. First the decades long Luminoth/Ing War, then pirates come, which brings Dark Samus and the Federation, then Samus, and there's a big fight between Samus and the Federation vs Ing vs pirates vs Dark Samus, and each faction either gets wiped out, or has a terrible day. Samus got mugged and had her powerups stolen and had to scour the planet for them, Dark Samus got blowed up three times, the Luminoth were five minutes from being wiped out, and everyone else did get wiped out. I'd like to see the Luminoth show up again in some capacity, though it would almost certainly have to be in a Prime game.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#18231: Nov 2nd 2022 at 9:46:56 PM

And I also decided to boot up Prime 3, and I can say I like Primes 2 and 3 over Prime 1 so far.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#18232: Nov 2nd 2022 at 10:23:53 PM

Man, the Prime series and the whole Phazon parts of the story is some real good horror.

I wonder what in that hypothetical universe, corrupted Phazon Samus is doing whenever she overloads on Hyper Mode.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#18233: Nov 2nd 2022 at 10:35:23 PM

[up]You talking about the Terminal Corruption Game Over?

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#18234: Nov 2nd 2022 at 10:35:49 PM

Yeah.

Like what's worse than Dark Samus? The real deal corrupted by Phazon.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#18235: Nov 3rd 2022 at 9:14:41 AM

[up]Ah, yeah.

Also apparently I’m insane enough to buy Other M. Though I literally wasn’t able to give that game a chance because that game killed my first Wii’s disc drive.

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ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
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#18236: Nov 3rd 2022 at 11:17:03 AM

There was a time where my Gamestop had piles of Other M they couldn't sell with single-digit price tags. Fun times.

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doomrider7 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#18237: Nov 3rd 2022 at 11:53:59 AM

@powerpuffbats

I'm quite particular to MP 1 myself. A few of the designs like the War Wasps just looked better there. I did like the databooks from the later games much better since it showed the full character models.

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#18238: Nov 3rd 2022 at 1:09:59 PM

That is nice, but the X-Ray look that the Creature entries in MP 1 also have a charm. It feels so analytical.

In all 3 games I like the Logbook a lot. Would a great way to expand on the story for the people who want it, or just let people focus on the gameplay if they just want that.

doomrider7 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#18239: Nov 4th 2022 at 1:38:43 PM

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I wish it gave you a toggle for both options.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#18240: Nov 9th 2022 at 4:35:22 PM

Chapter 9 of Gamerthumb TV's Metroid video series is finally up, chronicling the events of Super Metroid.

Next up....Other M.

Been looking forward to how he's gonna handle that one.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18241: Nov 14th 2022 at 11:00:04 AM

Here's a question: After Mother Brain got blowed up during Samus' first assault on Zebes, she eventually got rebuilt. How long do you think that took? Like, do you think she was up and about by the time of Metroid Prime? Or was she out for longer?

RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#18242: Nov 15th 2022 at 4:27:12 AM

Since Mother Brain herself isn't so much as even given a mention throughout the Prime series IIRC, I've always assumed that she wasn't fully repaired until sometime between Metroid II and Super.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#18243: Nov 15th 2022 at 4:37:36 AM

It really is odd how Mother Brain never took off as a villain the way Ridley did; You'd think, that the rebel creation of her bird dads, in a way both her sibling and her surrogate mother, would be something/someone Samus also had a deep-seated rivalry with.

But I guess 'Space Dragon she wants revenge on' is much easier to include. Don't need to specify why Ridley is somewhere. She hates him, he hates her, if they know the other is around they're gonna try and nuke the other to death.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#18244: Nov 15th 2022 at 4:48:57 AM

Alien Computer thing just wont sell.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#18245: Nov 15th 2022 at 4:51:22 AM

I guess it's because Ridley has things like showing up more, a unique boss theme, and the memes of being too big to be in Smash.

Hell, the last time MB showed up, it was in Other M in anime girl form and with a really crappy boss fight.

But at least Super Metroid gave her a really cool boss fight.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#18246: Nov 15th 2022 at 4:52:21 AM

Ridley is purple people eater that's why,he's cooler then lame ugly Mother brain.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#18247: Nov 15th 2022 at 4:55:03 AM

A character like MB def needs to have lines and a constant presence to leave more of an impact.

Like look at Glados. She's a similar character to MB in the sense they are stationary female machines that antagonize the female protagonist journeying towards an unknown area and are only really met at the end of the game.

But Glados has a personality and lines to make her stand out, Mother Brain doesn't.

Ridley as a character is far more expressive even without lines since he's a flesh and blood being who isn't limited to one area.

The most memorable MB got was when she turned into a monster at the end of Super.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 15th 2022 at 7:55:23 AM

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Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#18248: Nov 15th 2022 at 10:34:05 AM

Mother Brain was a memorable and iconic villain back in the 80s and 90s. But that all changed when Fusion and Prime came out. A new generation of Metroid fans didn’t get to meet the Space Pirate Leader because they were dealing with a new threat. The only consistent Pirate character was Ridley, which likely cemented Ridley as THE pirate leader.

The irony is that caused Mother Brain to fade into obscurity is due to the Metroid series wanting to move away from classic villains in favor of new threats. This is why Ridley missed out on Dread and Raven Beak was killed off for good at the end of his proper debut. Now, villains in Metroid are going to be judged by impact they have on the player rather than being recurring threats.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#18249: Nov 15th 2022 at 10:53:27 AM

I mean, besides the games, all she had was...Captain N the Game Master.

Yeah not the best for her profile or anyone else's really.

I do think it was a good idea that the Manga added her to the Chozo lore though.

Come to think of it, Raven Beak did certainly take inspiration from Ridley and Mother Brain in the Manga.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18250: Nov 15th 2022 at 10:58:08 AM

Raven Beak was all about power for power's sake. We can't say for certain what Ridley's like, unless you want to refer to the manga of dubious canonicity, but I imagine it's some mixture of powerhungryness, and love of carnage. Which makes me wonder what a meeting between the two of them would be like. They'd probably be on opposing sides, but there may be some Not So Different/Worthy Opponent going on between them.

Edited by WillKeaton on Nov 15th 2022 at 11:58:20 AM


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