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Jaryl from Austria Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Aug 22nd 2019 at 1:54:48 PM

Nope, Other M was set after Super Metroid, but with some tweaking (aka removing the Deleter subplot and the Baby Metroid thing, which caused the most consternation in the fanbase) it probably would've fit better as a prequel to Zero Mission.

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Edited by Jaryl on Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:56:01 AM

ShirowShirow Play Langrisser from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:19:08 PM

I like to imagine Samus completely raised the bar for what a hunter was. She was considered the best because she hunted down a bunch of dangerous criminals in short order, but the fact she was a legitimate One-Woman Army wasnt even considered a possibility. Zero Mission was her going from tough soldier to living legend.

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bitemytail from Arizona Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:56:59 PM

Right. I forgot the continual babbling about "The baby".

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Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Aug 22nd 2019 at 3:44:15 PM

Samus was feeling sad because Ze Baby and because surrogate father figure haha what are chozo?? Adam was being emotionally distant

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Shadao Surprised Satoshi
Surprised Satoshi
Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:45:49 PM

A Metroid game before the first Metroid game would likely involve no Metroids and simply show just mercenary jobs at best. And really, there are far more interesting stories to explore like rogue Chozo factions or Phantoon.

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Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Aug 22nd 2019 at 6:22:48 PM

I always wanted an evil Chozo who sided with the Space Pirates.

And pilots a Mini-Mecha version of the Power Suit for battling Samus. Like Iron Man vs. Iron Monger.

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Aug 22nd 2019 at 6:25:41 PM

I think the 100% completion bonus in Samus Returns is hinting at a bunch of evil Chozo. I'm not sure though, it's kind of ambiguous.

Edited by WillKeaton on Aug 22nd 2019 at 7:25:57 AM

Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Aug 22nd 2019 at 6:28:25 PM

It's something, at least. But yeah, it's good possible setup.

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Durazno Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Aug 22nd 2019 at 6:45:06 PM

If we wanted to show a pre-Zero Mission Samus, we could have a game that calls back to one of her early missions, like the one that recommended her to be called for Zebes, but the bulk of it takes place later on.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere
Planeswalker
Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:01:49 PM

You could make a Metroid prequel not featuring Samus and focus on the metroids, or have a story about Samus in the army. You don't really need metroids in the game, metroids are barely in a lot of the games anyways (as in they aren't fought a lot, not that they aren't important to those plots). They're just an Elite Mook at the end.

Edited by PhiSat on Aug 22nd 2019 at 11:02:04 AM

Oissu!
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Mighty No. 51345
Aug 22nd 2019 at 11:06:16 PM

But Samus is the Metroid. It is her.

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere
Planeswalker
Aug 22nd 2019 at 11:07:03 PM

In a prequel though?

Oissu!
Durazno Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Aug 22nd 2019 at 11:07:52 PM

Being the ultimate hunter is why she was sent to Zebes, after all.

Edited by Durazno on Aug 22nd 2019 at 1:22:54 PM

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Aug 23rd 2019 at 12:19:24 AM

Metroid reclaiming the Artifact Title through alien transliteration is honestly one of the most clever things the franchise has done.

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FrozenWolf2 Just an Old Mon from Stuck in Kanto
Just an Old Mon
Sep 2nd 2019 at 12:45:50 AM

don't you guys make me find the bird dad rant!

Replayed super metroid, Now I remember Why i wasn't too sad about losing the grapple beam

Ya know no one ever brings up how much of a bad boss Mother Brain is in Super

I mean as you treck through Tourian and are about to face the Big One.... you only find the bodies of the most current victim who distetigrate to sand/dust in rooms that are FILLED with 'sand' and the ring defenses have been turned off

the implication is Mother Brain locked her Room down and let Ze Baby loose in the areas before it hoping it would kill Sammy 'which too be fair if any of her elite 4 couldn't do it'

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 5:12:11 AM

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Sep 2nd 2019 at 11:51:33 AM

Have we ever gotten a motivation for Mother Brain? I mean, I'll take motivation for any member of the Space Pirates, but I'd kind of like to know why Mother Brain turned on the Chozo. I don't think any game covers why, except for possibly Other M, and I can't recall if she explains why she's evil in that. I think Melissa Bergman was just upset at humans for treating her like a piece of property, but never touched upon why the original Mother Brain turned evil.

Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Sep 2nd 2019 at 11:57:25 AM

The manga touched on her motivations somewhat.

Demonstrating her superiority complex, she spoke of her frustrations with her creators and claimed she had long surpassed them. She also calculated that taking control over the Pirates would allow her to bring order to the universe through violence and war, thus she designated herself as master

Mother Brain was eventually attacked by Gray Voice when he revealed he was only cooperating to win her trust. During the battle, he called her a "defective" product and speculated that she developed fear, hatred and jealousy of other sentient life, in particular of Samus due to the orphan showing far more promise at successfully protecting the cosmos than the rogue A.I ever would. These statements left Mother Brain shaken to the point of affecting her otherwise calm demeanor; she had trouble making proper sentences and she desperately pleaded for Ridley's help when he arrived to rescue her.

Although Mother Brain claims that she was following her directive per what the Chozo intended, it is heavily implied that she truly desired to have full control of the universe for its own sake. Furthermore, it comes to light that Mother Brain is in fact using the Space Pirates to further her own goals, referring to them and all other beings in existence as simple beasts. She intends on having her forces fight the Galactic Federation until both organizations become sufficiently crippled, at which point she will "cradle" the survivors to "sleep" and, after resetting the universe to zero, help them reach an intellectual level that she deems worthy of life. Thus, achieving her goal of bringing true order. She also plans on using an "evolved" form of the Metroid species to secure her dominion over all life.

Sounds like one hell of an superiority inferiority complex.

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Shadao Surprised Satoshi
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Sep 2nd 2019 at 12:16:43 PM

[up] Hmmm, another trope to add to her character page.

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