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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#11201: Jan 8th 2016 at 6:26:29 AM

You know, it occurs to me- I think I'd be a lot more hyped for Federation Force if it, you know, was the story of a single Federation marine stranded on a planet exploring and trying to survive.

Like, add a bit of Survival Horror to the usual Metroid, make Space Pirate squads actually incredibly terrifying to fight, and show that things that are Mooks to Samus are still incredibly dangerous to anyone who isn't a god-killing badass.

I think the graphics would barely matter if it was an actual Metroid Vania.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#11202: Jan 8th 2016 at 8:56:28 AM

I'll just simply be happy if, whatever they do, they do it for the art.

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#11203: Jan 8th 2016 at 9:40:37 AM

I'd be fine with them doing it for the cash if it resulted in a great game.

Like Prime 4. They don't like the Prime games so they'd only sign off on Prime 4 because they wanted to reap some profits from it. I'm cool with that, because it would mean we get Prime 4.

Metroid: Other M was done "for the art". It was Sakaguchi living his vision for what Metroid should be, and it was dreadful. The art does not guarantee a good product, and this franchise has thus far been much better off with cash cow installments.

edited 8th Jan '16 9:41:21 AM by TobiasDrake

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#11204: Jan 8th 2016 at 10:06:44 AM

Well hey, if Metroid drought is getting you down, I just finished Axiom Verge and that game's real great.

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#11205: Jan 8th 2016 at 11:47:44 AM

I just started playing Prime Trilogy. I'm still not very big on realistic games, but eh, I'll give it a shot.

Speaking of shots, I do know that MPT is one of the very few games that can really effectively be played with the Wii Zapper. So that's a thing.

My thoughts so far playing Prime 1 for the first time since at least 2003:

  • Sheesh, now that I'm old enough to understand the scanning descriptions, scanning the injured Space Pirates on Frigate Orpheon is kind of upsetting. I feel bad for picking on them.
  • I still don't understand the "Samus's powers malfunction" scene any more than I did when I was little. Like, was her power suit not compatible with the elevator or something?
  • Fucking Ram War Wasps... My trigger finger's getting really tired trying to hit them. What kind of moron builds a machine that does nothing but make wasps more organized and annoying, anyway?!

edited 8th Jan '16 11:49:32 AM by BaffleBlend

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#11206: Jan 8th 2016 at 11:58:00 AM

What do you mean by realistic? I mean, I guess the environments are detailed, but otherwise...

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#11207: Jan 8th 2016 at 1:01:57 PM

[up]Well, I generally prefer more cartoony franchises. Detailed graphics tend to alienate me; that's why I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to get a PS4 or XB1.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#11208: Jan 8th 2016 at 2:00:50 PM

It wasn't the elevator that set off her suit, it was the electrical explosion that launched her into it.

If the Space Pirates had suit-disabling elevators they'd replace all their elevators with those.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11209: Jan 9th 2016 at 12:10:10 PM

Yeah, it was the explosively and (mostly) the impact that knocked out the suits secondary functions.

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#11210: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:12:32 PM

[up][up][up]You're a human being with alien dna who had your parents killed by a SPACE DRAGON, and now you're being sent on a planet with a suit that can just obtain upgrades from other lifeforms I think realism can only go so far in Metroid.

Anyways I don't think the series is dead it's not a priority like Pokemon, Mario, or Zelda but until they start doing slot machines with Samus another game can be on the horizon.

[down] My mistake D:

edited 10th Jan '16 9:18:01 PM by Mizerous

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#11211: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:17:07 PM

Hey, her parents were killed by a SPACE DRAGON, thank you very much.

I like to keep the story consistent.

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#11212: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:19:09 PM

If there were a Metroid rpg how do you think it should be handled?

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#11213: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:24:25 PM

[up] 1 of three ways.

It becomes a crossover that might not do well in sales.

A game done by a different company with ambition that still does not do so well.

The last one it becomes Mass Effect 2 Electric Boogaloo.

Actually if they took the concepts from the first Mass Effect game and added in Metroid myths it could be a decent to enjoyable Metroid RPG game.

edited 10th Jan '16 9:25:28 PM by Mizerous

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11214: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:30:43 PM

A open or semi-open world would be best I think. It would be great for world building, though I'm not sure I'd give that to Nintendo. Not sure what dev team would be best for that actually.

Also not sure if Samus should be the primary main character. She does best in isolation but just having a branch of random sci-fi characters in a Metroid setting (even if both the characters and the setting are done well) might not feel like Metroid,

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#11215: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:31:51 PM

Handily, a lot of rpg protagonists are silent ones.

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#11216: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:34:09 PM

[up] To be honest I liked the fact Samus talked in Fusion and Other M I don't think the you're the character in the game avatar style works for Samus like it might for Link, Fire Emblem's Avatar, and the Persona Protagonist.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#11217: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:34:47 PM

Samus can get away with not being silent.

Just don't go MOM again.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11218: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:35:08 PM

Eh, I think that silent protags in ensemble rpgs are an outdated trope. I don't think voicing Samus and having her in a group is doomed to fail, it simply has to be done well. And you need a decent VA and a voice director worth a damn.

edited 10th Jan '16 9:36:50 PM by Rationalinsanity

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#11219: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:37:16 PM

[up] Well yeah not saying they should hire the voice I wanted her to have, but it sounded like Jennifer Hale did a decent job along with her Smash Voice Actor.

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#11220: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:38:09 PM

[up][up]And a group that doesn't make you want to throw them all into a pool of phazon.

Which means no federation goons.

edited 10th Jan '16 9:38:46 PM by BaffleBlend

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11221: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:44:48 PM

Well, Anthony and Dane were cool. And some of those dead troopers in Echoes sounded alright.

Really, it was only most of the Other M chuckle heads that sucked. And most of them were just bland, which made the whole Deleter subplot even more pointless because you didn't give a damn about the glorified Stormtroopers being killed off.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#11222: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:47:06 PM

Definitely a solo RPG with no other party members. I presume this would be an action RPG, and those work best solo, and even if it wasn't solo fits the tone better. Instead of finding your upgrades you unlock them as you level up, which allows you to fight tougher enemies and get to new places. Of course you get to choose whether to level up say, your jump or your ice beam or your bombs or whatever to facilitate the non-linearity.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#11223: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:57:03 PM

A Metroid RPG would probably wind up being similar to Xenoblade Chronicles X, in both gameplay and setting.

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#11224: Jan 10th 2016 at 10:03:17 PM

[up] Hopefully it would have a beefier story because that's my main issue with that game. Granted the Prime series until 3 was just data logs, but you could piece the plot together with the info you read.

edited 10th Jan '16 10:04:09 PM by Mizerous

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#11225: Jan 10th 2016 at 10:04:55 PM

Xenoblade X is defined by being able to cover like, 80% of the map at the start. You don't want to be able to do that in Metroid. Plus Metroid generally has you exploring primarily caves, labs, and other indoor environments.

And while I do like Xenoblade's combat, I don't think MMO cooldowns would be appropriate for Metroid.


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