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AnonymousUser Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:39:55 PM

Why not?

No one abused it (outside of possible accidental/intentional glitching of the title boxes), from what I know.

BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#2: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:40:59 PM

I thought for a while that it was just me, because I did tend to throw those tags around a bit. I didn't think I was being trollish with 'em, and I didn't get any warning PMs or anything.

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#3: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:48:16 PM

I turned it off in the parser. No one has ever used it to any good purpose in the wiki, which the parser is mainly used for. I'm sure forumites will find other ways to indicate emphasis.

edited 12th Dec '10 12:48:32 PM by FastEddie

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AnonymousUser Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:48:55 PM

Like this?

I'll miss it, though.

Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#5: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:53:13 PM

So will I.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:53:42 PM

Does small font not work as well? That wouldn't be very fun. The best way I can think of to get the same effect is using lots of ellipses, and that can get annoying.

Seems not. Sucks, I'll miss it.

edited 12th Dec '10 12:54:11 PM by Arha

BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#7: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:54:24 PM

*sigh* Well, we still have this, this,    this,    and    a combination of all three.    I think we'll figure something out.

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#8: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:55:20 PM

Huh. Macro Zone's quote not that much fitting anymore. (It used to be bigger in text size.)

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#10: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:56:01 PM

I think the large font won't be missed, but the small font, which indicates disemphasis, is harder to replace.

Maybe like this?

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:14:48 PM

Yeah, there's plenty of alternatives for expressing emphasis. I'm sure I'll find a good replacement for expressing a caption that has to be bigger than the rest too oh wait no. No, I won't.

CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
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#12: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:16:41 PM

idea Idea: After the "[[color:" markup was disabled on the forum, new forum-only tags ("[[red:", "[[evil:", etc.) were implemented instead.

Would it be possible to make a pair of special forum-only tags (something like "[[large:" or "[[small:") that increase and decrease the text size by one level?

edited 12th Dec '10 1:22:31 PM by CentralAvenue

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Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
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#13: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:22:00 PM

Yes, I think there were several legitimate uses for size tags. Besides the RP forums, where they were useful for whispering, I can see a few counterexamples from the wiki:

  1. Macro Zone's quote (as Marioguy pointed out)
  2. Portal's, well, portal (one of the most clever things I've seen yet on the wiki)
  3. Brian Blessed (YMMV of course, but it seems appropriate)

The latter two are still there to see as long as the pages don't get edited.

edited 12th Dec '10 1:22:38 PM by Haven

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Zakdos Boiling blood from the ashes Since: Apr, 2010
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#14: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:28:55 PM

So I assume the color text was used for some good purpose in the wiki? Who would've thought.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#15: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:33:35 PM

Color Character is a good example of the colour markup being used well.

edited 12th Dec '10 1:33:44 PM by shimaspawn

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Zakdos Boiling blood from the ashes Since: Apr, 2010
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#16: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:45:41 PM

Making two entries unreadable isn't what I'd call used well.

I ain't saying no showy crap like "later buddies" or something lame like that. I'll be back soon, you bozos!
berr Since: Jan, 2001
#17: Dec 12th 2010 at 2:06:55 PM

I strongly encourage the admins to reconsider disabling the size markup.

We should at least have the ability to go one down and one up.

Examples of legitimate uses:

  • Captions. Sometimes they line-break, producing widows and orphans. Size reduction fixes this in many instances and on most browsers.

  • In-line quotations, e.g. next to a listed trope on a works page. This is very important. Sometimes (quite often in fact) a quote isn't large enough to go on its own example indentation.

Admins, please consider merely dis-advertising this format on the help pages, so that inexperienced editors do not abuse it.

I don't think I've ever seen a case of abuse, though. Apparently it's becoming the policy that all text on the wiki should look the same, regardless of format or placement on the page, which can be very hard on the eyes. That's why many real-life publications use font size adjustments for specialized usages.

edited 12th Dec '10 2:23:21 PM by berr

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#18: Dec 12th 2010 at 3:51:27 PM

Was it actually causing problems? It may not have been terribly useful, but I don't believe it should be removed unless it was actively harmful.

berr Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Dec 12th 2010 at 4:48:30 PM

^^^ Zakdos: fixed. You have a discerning eye, but while I agree giving formatting freedom to the masses may invite rare abuses so bad its good websites like this, I don't think the site should be made unnecessarily idiot-proof, depriving skilled editors. grin

edited 12th Dec '10 4:55:36 PM by berr

Zakdos Boiling blood from the ashes Since: Apr, 2010
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#20: Dec 13th 2010 at 3:19:17 AM

[up] My point exactly. Abuses may occur (and I think that nobody abused the size tags, anyway), but that doesn't mean the thing is the source of all evil in this world.

Also: now Brian Blessed sucks.

I ain't saying no showy crap like "later buddies" or something lame like that. I'll be back soon, you bozos!
Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Dec 13th 2010 at 3:28:53 AM

Zakdos: Or does it?

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AllanAokage Since: Dec, 1969
#22: Dec 13th 2010 at 8:21:36 AM

Consider this, please.

No one has ever used it to any good purpose in the wiki, which the parser is mainly used for.
Give us a method for how it is useful on the wiki's parser.

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#24: Dec 13th 2010 at 9:13:20 AM

Disregard this. I was wrong.

edited 13th Dec '10 9:14:33 AM by Thnikkafan

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AllanAokage Since: Dec, 1969
#25: Dec 13th 2010 at 9:25:00 AM

^^ Can't we just bold that instead of GIANT TEXT? Or just CAPS LOCK?


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