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Dec 30th 2010 at 1:19:45 PM

There were a couple of Eva fic reviews in the ones I put back. There's also a few in the unfixed list which seem to be Eva but I have no way to tell which fic they are about. For instance, this one.

Fast Eddie either deleted, or removed from the list, all the <name> #nnnnn reviews. I suspect that those were fanfic reviews in which case there's not much anyone but him can do about them. Also, it's not clear how many of them actually can be fixed.

edited 30th Dec '10 1:20:26 PM by arromdee

Dec 30th 2010 at 1:52:47 PM

Yeah, they were filtered out. I'll add 'em back in, in a few minutes.

Edit to add: That's done.

edited 30th Dec '10 2:05:36 PM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Dec 30th 2010 at 1:58:50 PM

I found one: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/reviews.php?target_group=Main&target_title=ThirtyHs

It is a review for the Harry Potter Fanfic "HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" (also known as Thirty H.) We use to have a page for it, but I don't know if we still do as its not showing up in the search, but Its listed on Harry Potter So Bad Its Good.

I don't know how to set it to that specific fanfic.

edited 30th Dec '10 2:13:06 PM by fawn

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Dec 30th 2010 at 2:14:26 PM

I don't know how to set it it to show up under reviews on Thirty Hs.

^Not actually my favorite animal.
KrisMahai Hm?
Hm?
Dec 30th 2010 at 2:45:04 PM

I did it. There's a button on the upper right that says "Correct subject." Then you just enter the namespace and page title.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”
Dec 30th 2010 at 4:34:54 PM

Okay, now that they're stored, I took a look at them. They're actually very easy to fix—it's just incredibly, incredibly, time-consuming.

The key is that at this point the reviews were only moved from the main reviews page fairly recently and still show up in the history. So in order to fix them:

  1. If you don't know what series the fic is for, open the recent edits page of the guy whose name the review is actually by—this is the guy who moved the review. For instance, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=Iaculus (with whatever the correct troper name is replaced at the end). In this example, I see that he moved a bunch of Prototype reviews on October 25.
  2. Open the reviews page (in this case https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanficRecs/Prototype ) and look at the history. You may need to click "show up to an additional 200 edits".
  3. Open the review that you want to fix and find where in the history it was removed from the main page and put in the review page. The edit was probably accompanied by adding a link to the review page to begin with, so the review page name will often be nearby.
  4. Fix the review by changing the namespace to FanficRecs and the wiki page to the review name. Make sure to get the spacing right, since unlike other reviews, fanfic reviews can and often do have spaces in the name. Then reload the reviews page to make sure the number of reviews went up. (Be careful about renamed reviews and such.)

I would also suggest starting from the oldest reviews going up since sooner or later the information you need to fix this will scroll off the bottom.

edited 30th Dec '10 5:18:47 PM by arromdee

Willbyr Anime-ted from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Agent0042 Creator - Laconic/24 from Dayton, Ohio
Creator - Laconic/24
Jan 1st 2011 at 4:38:08 PM

Are certain "reviews" even worth hanging on to? I just found this here posted as a review - "One of the funniest Fanfics I've had the fortune to stumble upon." How are we ever supposed to link that back to anything? That's not review - it's a message board or Twitter post or something. There is nothing worth saving there.

“I just think that's really shady." "Shady?!" - Stephanie & Chad, The Amazing Race 17
Jan 1st 2011 at 7:17:31 PM

No, it isn't worth keeping. Flag it for deletion.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Jan 1st 2011 at 7:32:48 PM

Chances are very good that you can in fact link that review back to its source. Because the reviews were until very recently part of the main page, you can look at the history of the main page and see when all the reviews were moved and where they were moved to.

You might not be able to link the review back if it was directly added as a review and never moved, but this is still rare.

edited 1st Jan '11 7:33:30 PM by arromdee

Willbyr Anime-ted from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
Jan 1st 2011 at 7:43:49 PM

Something that might help in the subject correcting would be to make the namespace field a drop-down list. When I was reassigning the Eva fic reviews, I accidentally set several of them to Fan Fic instead of Fan Fic Recs, and spent nearly a half hour trying to figure out what I'd done, and then getting them reassigned...bit of a moment of panic.

Resize || Upgrades || My dA page
Jan 1st 2011 at 8:05:59 PM

I just found one that really does need to be deleted. Basically, the fic was removed from the page because 1) the "review" was from the fic's writer, and 2) the fic is really bad in an ugly way.

Problem is, there's no way to nominate a review for deletion....

[[reviews:Fight For Life, Hell Is Named Pokegirl]]

(actually, I can't even figure out how to get that to appear as a proper link...)

edited 1st Jan '11 8:08:29 PM by arromdee

Jan 1st 2011 at 11:12:48 PM

There is a checkbox to flag the review. Click that. A mod will delete it.

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CrashGordon94 from England
Jan 2nd 2011 at 10:17:54 AM

What happened to the ability to rate reviews?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Jan 2nd 2011 at 10:26:58 AM

It was removed. It was not accomplishing what it was intended to. People were simply up-voting reviews they agreed with and down-voting those they didn't agree with, regardless of the quality of the review.

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OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania
Don't feed the plants!
Jan 2nd 2011 at 4:24:18 PM

When can we make reviews again?

I'm feeling strangely happy now, contented and serene. Oh don't you see, finally I'll be, somewhere that's green...
Jan 2nd 2011 at 4:42:37 PM

Now

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania
Don't feed the plants!
Jan 2nd 2011 at 4:53:25 PM

It still won't let me. It claims that any reviews are a review for "Test Title" and they're by Fast Eddie.

I'm feeling strangely happy now, contented and serene. Oh don't you see, finally I'll be, somewhere that's green...
Mariecat Tropeaholic from Parts Unknown
Tropeaholic
Jan 2nd 2011 at 4:59:04 PM

In fact the entire index seems to be gone. Any past reviews go to 'Test Title' a lovely gray blank page with only a sort and add option. Also seeing a server error now for the review activity page.

edited 2nd Jan '11 5:00:25 PM by Mariecat

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OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania
Don't feed the plants!
Jan 2nd 2011 at 5:03:49 PM

On an unrelated note, I can't open "Troperville", "Tools", and "Toys".

I'm feeling strangely happy now, contented and serene. Oh don't you see, finally I'll be, somewhere that's green...
CrashGordon94 from England
Jan 2nd 2011 at 11:16:52 PM

@Madrugada Aw man! That was a really helpful feature! :(

Agent0042 Creator - Laconic/24 from Dayton, Ohio
Creator - Laconic/24
Jan 3rd 2011 at 7:43:13 PM

It was removed. It was not accomplishing what it was intended to. People were simply up-voting reviews they agreed with and down-voting those they didn't agree with, regardless of the quality of the review.
This is a common problem with that sort of rating system. I've seen it happen many times before. The only thing that I can think to do would be to make it clear that you are voting based on the quality of the writing of the review and not whether you agree or disagree. Thing is, people might still do it anyway, so probably better to leave that particular Pandora's Box closed.

edited 3rd Jan '11 7:43:27 PM by Agent0042

“I just think that's really shady." "Shady?!" - Stephanie & Chad, The Amazing Race 17
BonsaiForest This tiny forest is where all the action is! from The woods
This tiny forest is where all the action is!
Jan 3rd 2011 at 7:58:20 PM

The only thing that I can think to do would be to make it clear that you are voting based on the quality of the writing of the review and not whether you agree or disagree.

It actually said that right there next to the rating buttons, and that message was totally ignored.

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