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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#351: Jul 7th 2011 at 9:58:18 PM

Mirage was the red Ferrari, you see him mostly in the opening scene showing the Autobots taking out an illegal nuclear facility. Are you talking about the highway chase and one of the Dreads getting thrown onto a passing car? I don't recall every intricate moment of every action scene but that seemed more like collateral damage to be expected in such a situation when fighting 20 foot tall robots while driving 50 MPH down a freeway. If you're talking about the 'Con being smashed into a car and thrown into a building it was Ironhide and Sideswipe (silver Corvette with twin swords), and I'm assuming the shop was empty.

The most advanced CG robot character created before the Transformers movies was General Grievous, which is far from what was needed for the movies. They would have had to go through the same tech development and the subsequent movies benefitted from all that stuff already being figured out. Some sort of middle ground between the boxy G1 and complex movie designs would be either War For Cybertron or Transformers Prime, and I don't think either (especially WFC) would really work live action. The movie robots are gritty and uncompromising in what they are, too hyper-stylized and they don't look like they can transform into anything.

TheGunheart Some nights I rule the world (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#352: Jul 7th 2011 at 10:56:56 PM

[up]The road in the shot is practically empty, though. There's literally one car and one truck on the entire stretch of road he landed on. The Autobots tend to be rather sociopathic in the films from the second one on, though, so it's to be expected.

And I don't buy that this was the only way the robots could've looked. Hell, they gave Prime those stupid frog toes that I honestly can't figure out how they got past the design phase.

The worst part is, this is likely going to set the standard for what theatrical giant robots are going to look like from here on.

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#353: Jul 7th 2011 at 11:15:36 PM

Too bad the designers didn't take design cues from the Armored Core mecha. Something along those lines would look excellent in live-action.

[up]They really should've introduced an Ultra Magnus or Grimlock/Dinobot type character to do all the sociopathic stuff, would've set off a nice-contrast to Optimus too.

edited 7th Jul '11 11:17:24 PM by Rynnec

TheGunheart Some nights I rule the world (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#354: Jul 7th 2011 at 11:43:24 PM

[up]Well, Armored Core does feature designs by Shoji Kawamori, and he actually designed the original Diaclone Battle Convoy toy, which was adapted into Optimus Prime. He also designed the Valkyries of Macross fame, which were some of the first transforming mecha (though I'm fairly certain that, not counter Getter Robo's really loose style of transformation, Raideen might have been the first).

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#355: Jul 7th 2011 at 11:47:45 PM

[up]Really?(about the designing the Diaclone Optimus was based off of) Then why the fucking hell didn't they get him to design the movie Transformers? Seriously. His designs for AC is what live-action mecha should really look like.

TheGunheart Some nights I rule the world (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#356: Jul 8th 2011 at 12:03:30 AM

Well, he did design a new toy of Optimus Prime that was essentially a fully-articulated action figure that looked just like the G1 toy. As well as the Masterpiece Starscream.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#357: Jul 8th 2011 at 12:06:47 AM

I HATE MICHEAL BAY, I SHALL NEVER SEE ANOTHER OF HIS MOVIES AGAIN.

Well, somebody is not cool enough too handle his awesomeness.

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Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#358: Jul 8th 2011 at 12:38:41 AM

So has anyone on this thread yet mentioned this plothole (I haven't read all the posts):

Sentinel Prime's ship gets shot down by Decepticons during the war. The Decepticons then work to secretly help the Autobots revive him, because he was their ally all this time.

That's right, the Decepticons shot down their own ally, whose spaceship was carrying vital military hardware he was going to give them anyhow.

So in other words, the whole movie's premise makes no sense and shouldn't be happening, because Sentinel Prime's ship shouldn't have been shot down.

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#359: Jul 8th 2011 at 12:42:18 AM

I want to see this, but the grammatically incorrect subtitle puts me off.

Should I see it anyways?

UN JOUR JE SERAI DE RETOUR PRÈS DE TOI
Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#360: Jul 8th 2011 at 12:44:01 AM

If you liked the two first ones, you'll like this one. If you didn't like them, don't bother.

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#361: Jul 8th 2011 at 12:46:32 AM

"The dark of the moon" is another name for the new moon, so it's not actually incorrect.

From the vociferous disagreements in this thread, I guess I'd have to recommend that you wait until you can rent it, unless you simply must see it in 3D.

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#362: Jul 8th 2011 at 12:47:32 AM

My RL friend put it best when it comes to the title:

"Dark of the moon?!? wheres the side!?! Dark Side Of The Moon people! XD now the title just sounds like an unecessary twilight sequel as opposed to sounding like a really awesome album by Pink Floyd XP"

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#363: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:08:17 AM

"Dark of the moon?!? wheres the side!?! Dark Side Of The Moon people! XD now the title just sounds like an unecessary twilight sequel as opposed to sounding like a really awesome album by Pink Floyd XP"

That is defined as "nitpicking" in my book.

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cutewithoutthe Góðberit Norðling Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Góðberit Norðling
#364: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:09:02 AM

Ewww nitpicking, get it away from me.

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#365: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:11:58 AM

Still doesn't change the fact that it's a stupid ass title.

Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#366: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:13:05 AM

I don't really see why numeric sequel titles are so hated in Hollywood nowadays. Everyone's already calling the second one "Transformers 2", and they'll call this one "Transformers 3", so why not just name them that?

edited 8th Jul '11 1:13:19 AM by Kerrah

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#367: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:13:51 AM

I don't know, length balance?

[up][up] For you, it is.

edited 8th Jul '11 1:14:46 AM by dRoy

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cutewithoutthe Góðberit Norðling Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Góðberit Norðling
#368: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:14:03 AM

I don't know, I kinda like it.

And really, packaging and titles don't matter much to me. :)

hell, I don't like the name of the cereal brand Fruity Pebbles, yet I eat it anyways.

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#369: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:33:42 AM

[up][up]Obviously.

I mean, coming after an awesome subtitle like "Revenge Of The Fallen" "Dark Of The Moon" sounds kinda...not good. It's disappointing too, 'cause Transformers usually has awesome subtitles. (Stormbringer, War Within, etc.)

Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#370: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:35:42 AM

My problem is that the moon plot was entirely arbitrary, written only to fill the first half ot the film with conspiracy theories so there's an illusion of the plot moving forward. If Sentinel's ship had crashlanded on Earth today, instead of the moon sixty years ago, it wouldn't have changed the last hour of the plot in any way.

edited 8th Jul '11 1:36:27 AM by Kerrah

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#371: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:57:08 AM

Hmm, in that case, any idea for an alternative title?

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#372: Jul 8th 2011 at 1:58:56 AM

I was talking the overall design schemes, a unifying appearance that makes the robots look alike, not the cosmetic choices with regards to things like proportions and "frog feet." Evidently they changed Megatron's original head design after fan backlash and both Optimus and Bumblebee had slight alterations for DOTM. You can argue how a character model could be improved but before "Bayformers" no other Transformer design scheme would work in live action. The original toyline didn't even heed that idea because it was mixing different Japanese toylines, the only similarity was robots that change into something else.

SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
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#373: Jul 8th 2011 at 7:20:29 AM

[up] Yeah, I think it would be hard for the general public to take a live action Bumblebee seriously if he looked much like his G1 animated counterpart.

dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#374: Jul 8th 2011 at 8:56:13 AM

Some news!

There will be a Transformers 4. It won't be a reboot, it will start a new trilogy.

However, Its unlikely the Bay and Shia will come back for it.

edited 8th Jul '11 8:56:21 AM by dmysta3000

GUNDAMU GUNDAMU
cutewithoutthe Góðberit Norðling Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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#375: Jul 8th 2011 at 9:07:44 AM

Hmmmm.....

edited 8th Jul '11 9:09:06 AM by cutewithoutthe


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