PRC: The problem with various "Sport" verities of martial arts is they are aimed at scoring points in a limited and specific manner. They frequently forbid or limit a number of techniques or locational blows you would use in a real fight to end it quickly or definitively. Last I checked most sports martial arts frown on actually deliberately snapping your opponents bones or throat punching them. While this is not true of all of them there are more than a few where this quite overtly true.
edited 3rd Apr '17 7:15:23 PM by TuefelHundenIV
Who watches the watchmen?I do not find that most of the arts that claim that in a real fight you can do a lot of things prohibited by rules actually go on to train the things that are prohibited by rules in a manner more alive than compliant partner drills that only go through the motions. Which would be fine, if various proponents of the same arts wouldn't then go back and pretend this makes them better than the sport ones.
It's just empty yelling.
Interestingly, this was an issue for Jigoro Kano, the founder of Judo. Older Jujutsu techniques focus heavily on breaking joints and training for armed attack in specific conditions (armour, swords etc.). Many of the throws or locks are almost impossible to train full force without you landing on your face or breaking something, so he took the simplest, safest, yet most practical techniques, along with his training philosophy. You can train longer, harder and safer, and also allowing for more flexibility in techniques (such as ground fighting), which gives an advantage over other schools who often had nothing to answer it (with a few exceptions).
Of course, if you can without hesitation crush guys throat, break their joints or any other assortment of lovelies, you must have had a very interesting life.
edited 4th Apr '17 9:37:28 AM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleAn element of modernity is that matches that result in serious harm are disdained. A lot of lobbying went into lifting the ban on martial arts in Japan during the US occupation, and even after many had to demonstrate the viability of things such as Karate or Judo as a sport. It's about sanitizing them. Taekwondo was hit pretty hard by this, in terms of gear. Old gear was the usual armour, while the new one is based on sensors for accurate point calculation. It lead to this:
edited 4th Apr '17 11:38:54 PM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleThis and everything about it excites me at every level of my being.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/world/asia/mma-martial-arts-china-tai-chi.html?_r=0
PRC: So what about it was exciting for you out of curiosity? I am guessing it is the debunking of the myth behind the art.
That was certainly a quick and nasty fight. I honestly expected something at least a little longer like the Tai Chi guy to land at least one good hit or do something interesting. I kind of feel bad for the guy but then again reality can be harsh. I am somewhat reminded of the kind of unpleasant surprise "no touch" martial arts tend to get.
edited 12th May '17 4:29:21 PM by TuefelHundenIV
Who watches the watchmen?
I don't know about taijiquan, but aiki techniques rely on learning the opposite: do not give a response to the person grabbing/hitting. Not literally "no touch" (which doesn't even make sense).
To use a simple example if someone grabs you, rather than tensing up any muscle just turn the way his/her force is going. It messes with the head, like your support suddenly disappearing right from underneath you. However, in context these techniques are meant to be a surprise and rely on a large amount of training to even get the sense of what you're doing. Often followed by a nasty stomp or stab. It's better to think of it as a method that enhances already existing capabilities.
In terms of TMA having practical use, one of the few examples of this are guys who actively make it work like Hisham:
edited 13th May '17 2:38:08 AM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleSo, I haven't checked in on the guy doing boxing breakdowns on imgur in a while, partially because imgur's notification system is messed up. So I check in today and he's done the grandaddy of them all, arguably the best fight of all time due to the high level of the fighters involved, both fighting at their peaks, both among the top 10 fighters to ever put on the gloves. "Sugar" Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran I
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He's also offering now to review footage of people sparring in order to help with the form, which might be helpful to a couple of people from this thread. Details are below all the gifs from the fight.
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |Something I stumbled upon on YouTube: A channel analysing video game martial arts moves by a Jutsu Canada instructor
. Videos are for individual moves.
Example for the Okuri Ashi Harai.
As to my own martial arts experience, I haven't done much beyond some entry level wushu in elementary school. No sparring of any sorts, due to the amount of paperwork that would involve.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotOn Haitian machete martial arts:
They also have a website
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edited 10th Jun '17 11:12:08 AM by rmctagg09
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.You'll probably get a few answers, but..
Generally, it means that treating the sword as separate from your body often makes you neglect the movement and positioning of your entire frame. Everything has to move together, all the time. $
Depending on what form of swordsmanship you do, the details can vary.
edited 13th Jun '17 3:06:23 AM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleInterview of Kuroda Tetsuzan, inheriting tradition

But yeah, getting someone who knows what they're doing to see your form and what it is you're doing is always the best thing.
And speaking of boxing, here's another fight breakdown, this time of a bout between a young Floyd Mayweather and the Drunken Master Emmanuel Augustus
, who is a sadly overlooked fighter.
Edit: for reference, here's
a video of Augustus at his goofy, clowny, showy best.
edited 31st Mar '17 12:22:44 PM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |