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#27: Feb 19th 2011 at 11:02:25 PM

I wonder if I can find a dojo nearby, or if it merely consists of "FUCK YOU, I'LL PUNCH YOU HOWEVER AND WHEREVER I FEEL LIKE!"?

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#28: Feb 20th 2011 at 12:27:22 AM

It's like that, from my experience.

So Combat Pragmatist style martial arts, basically.

edited 20th Feb '11 12:27:36 AM by TheMightyAnonym

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#30: Feb 20th 2011 at 1:50:55 AM

Took karate for exactly one day when I was seven years old, punched instructor in the crotch, got expelled.

Now Imagine Konota saying that.

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#31: Feb 20th 2011 at 8:37:59 AM

Working on Toyama-ryu, incorporating some of what' I've read on Eishin-ryu and Tenshin-shoden Katori Shinto-ryu. Also I'm studying aikido and judo.

Recently I acquired a bo and a set of tonfa, so I'm learning to use them too. I'd like to learn some Chinese staff technique as well as the jian.

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#32: Feb 20th 2011 at 8:41:09 AM

I practice American Kenpo, which is a combination of Chinese and Japanese martial arts styles. I am currently a Junior black belt, a fact that which I am proud of.

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#33: Feb 20th 2011 at 2:00:20 PM

I've boxed, and football. Hey an explosive shoulder shot in close can do damage.

I'd like to learn Judo or Sambo. I want to learn some grappling to augment my boxing skills. The Marine martial art looks really cool but I don't feel like joining the marines just for martial arts training.

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#34: Feb 20th 2011 at 8:09:37 PM

If anything would tempt me to join the marines, it would be their specialized fighting style.

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#35: Feb 20th 2011 at 8:36:51 PM

IJBM: How did the fighting arts get started? How did humans develop the 'proper' way to fight? Just what is the way of the warrior? How did we turn fighting into an art form? What matters in a fight? How do you develop a tolerance for pain? How does this turn people into spirited Competitors and Blood Knights? How important is technique? How do you become a master at your craft?

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#36: Feb 20th 2011 at 10:02:24 PM

Fighting arts get started as a collection of knowledge of what works well. A lot of combat is situational. Jujitsu is a grappling art because throwing strikes against someone in samurai armor is a good way to break a hand and waste time. Same is true of European wrestling styles.

Don't know what the way of the warrior is, sounds dangerously metaphysical. If you mean the way a trained fighter should act it'd probably be about not abusing your talents and skills but yeah that's no guarantee, and lets be honest here these rules are not followed by all fighters.

Importance of technique would vary by situation and style. Generally speaking the gap in technique is biggest earliest. In a fist fight a guy with no training against a guy who's boxed a year that year of boxing is huge. Same with other arts you learn a lot of that important beginning stuff early. How to move how to block how to use basic attacks. The difference between the left hook of someone who knows what they're doing and someone who's throwing an arm punch is huge. If I threw a clean open left or right hook at your head as an arm punch you'd probably call me a bastard but be okay. If I threw a proper one with even just my limited training, odds are you're going down, you might not be out but a shot that hard to the temple will make you lose balance.

Physical conditioning is important too. Stamina speed strength flexibility are as important as knowing how to use them. In sparring I was able to do well in some rounds against people better than me just because I was big and strong. Long reach would let me fight at range. Muscle mass on the shoulders and arms let me absorb damage with greater ease, and being able to knock someone back a step even when they blocked let me stage offense at my leisure. Now this isn't to say there weren't rounds where I got my ass kicked, in fact since I was the newest fighter most rounds were me taking 3 good shots but getting in one or two of my own in return. You also tend to learn from those rounds. Best sparring night was the one where I ate two counter left hooks. The first of which made me O_O cause it was the first time I'd taken a hook to the head, as most rounds to that point were straight punches only. Then in the next round the same thing happened, I threw an obvious right and didn't get my hand back in time. Being more ready for it I took it better and used it to set up a hard straight right to the chin.

Tolerance for pain is mostly about preparation, if you know you're going to get hit you can handle it better and protect against it. You can deaden nerve endings, adrenaline can keep you going through the hurt. Also with practice you'll just get more used to getting hit. The flip side to this is that you shouldn't ever get to the point where you enjoy the pain. It's generally speaking a good way to have a short career and lets of damage taken. Teddy Atlas said one of the best traits in a fighter is someone who doesn't like to get hit, they can deal with it, but don't like it.

Not sure what you mean about spirtied competitors and blood knights I imagine you're one of those before you take the classes and instead you get training and these traits might become exaggerated.

Mastering the craft? years of training and competition/use.

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#37: Feb 21st 2011 at 5:54:21 AM

^Getting hit in the face pisses me off.

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#38: Feb 21st 2011 at 7:12:17 PM

[up] Same.

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#39: Feb 22nd 2011 at 12:14:50 PM

IJBM: If ultimately things are going to boil down to fist fighting when unarmed, what is the point of having those weapons at all?

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#40: Feb 22nd 2011 at 12:35:51 PM

[up]Depends on what weapons you're talking about. I know a few forms of h2h, but I'd still shoot you if I had the option; be pragmatic.

Gun > baton/staff/ect > edged weapon > improvised weapon > hands

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#41: Feb 22nd 2011 at 7:19:00 PM

[up] A weapon is only as good as the person that wields it. Also, you can't really say what's better or worse - every weapon has situations it's best in. For range, yes, firearms are awesome. In-close....well, you can pistol-whip someone, but you'd better be able to pull it off or have the weapon already trained on them and ready to fire.

Same goes for edged weapons and polearms. I've mock-sparred against polearms using various types of swords, and the temptation to rely only on the polearm's range is often too great, but they are excellent weapons for melee. However, if you have a shorter weapon like a sword and can get within attack range (usually with a beat like in fencing), you're golden.

edited 22nd Feb '11 7:25:39 PM by TomoeMichieru

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#42: Feb 22nd 2011 at 7:27:32 PM

@Kin O: I'd say it's more like shotgun > handgun > khukri > axe > sword > staff/ mace, morning star > knife > fists. Assuming a street fight.

Also, I am practically pro with a morning star, but I don't know if that's technically a formal martial art.

On Sandy's martial art he should take up: Boxing. Just... boxing. A fistfight is one thing, but a boxer without gloves takes it to a totally different level. Marine fighting styles are much more effective, but, y'know, you have to be a marine.

edited 22nd Feb '11 7:28:47 PM by Diamonnes

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#43: Feb 23rd 2011 at 7:43:27 PM

IJBM: If a fight is pretty much a fight, then what is the deal with all those fighting styles? Like say boxing vs. kung fu or hun gar(?) vs. wrestling, what factors are involved?

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#44: Feb 23rd 2011 at 7:47:00 PM

There are different styles because combat can happen in different times at different places. Kicking is great if you're standing, but not so useful if you get taken down to the ground.

A normal person has 2 arms and 2 legs; there are only so many ways to move them. What usually gives a martial artist his edge is the fact that he has more training, and experience than his opponent.

edited 23rd Feb '11 7:48:33 PM by Kino

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#45: Feb 23rd 2011 at 8:21:03 PM

Skill. Muscle memory. Knowing more about how to tear someone's face off than your opponent.

Different styles arise from relevancy. In Middle Ages Europe, some people wore armour. You can't exactly punch through armour, so a style developed focusing on grapples and takedowns. Chinese monks had to fight against people armed with weapons, thus, they developed a style that focuses on redirecting your opponent's momentum and not getting touched. Et cetera.

edited 23rd Feb '11 8:23:35 PM by Diamonnes

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#46: Feb 23rd 2011 at 8:23:54 PM

[up] I never thought that there would be many ways tro tear a person's face apart. O_O Dang!

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#47: Feb 23rd 2011 at 8:43:26 PM

I know exactly seventeen ways to tear a man's face in half. With a fountain pen.

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#48: Feb 23rd 2011 at 8:44:47 PM

[up]Orly?

I know 18. With a q-tip.

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#49: Feb 23rd 2011 at 9:01:54 PM

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#50: Feb 23rd 2011 at 9:43:04 PM

[up]HEY!

That's my idea!

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