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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#84601: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:26:43 AM

I don't know why people keep hoping for Ice Climbers.

Because they were fun and unique to play as? Because it was neat to see Nintendo give recognition to one of their less prominent works?

edited 10th Dec '15 10:27:01 AM by 32_Footsteps

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#84602: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:44:17 AM

Be realistic. They're not in because of technical limitations and Sakurai not wanting version-exclusive fighters. Don't get your hopes up.

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#84603: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:55:22 AM

The Ice Climbers were my mains in Brawl and a lack of them was my biggest disappointment with Sm4sh (even bigger than no story mode).

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#84604: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:57:39 AM

I would be 100% on board with a sequel to Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door. That's one of my favorite games.

Also, I never really played as the Ice Climbers, so I don't really have much opinion on them.

edited 10th Dec '15 10:57:48 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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#84605: Dec 10th 2015 at 11:01:55 AM

8-Player Smash getting consistent stage updates, despite the "technical limitations" that kept them from being playable initially, was just brought up barely a page ago.

That was in months' time; they have more than enough breathing room to figure out how to get them to work after over a year past release, especially when the other given reason for them being shoved aside was in fact prioritization combined with an apparent lack of time.

Now, if the actual realistic counterpoint was that he's not going to - especially when he could be dumping the rest of their money and resources into more Sony property cameos - then I see far less room for disagreement.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#84606: Dec 10th 2015 at 11:09:25 AM

The technical limitations are on the 3DS's part, not the Wii U's. Sakurai said they got them to work on the latter but not the former.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#84607: Dec 10th 2015 at 11:20:06 AM

And what reason would they have to be ignoring the other two-fifths of their $100 game?

Again, this isn't a case of "There isn't a way for them to work," but rather "A way for them to work hasn't been found." They have the time and evidently fan support (not that this stopped Roy anyway); all that's left is for Sakurai to get rid of this imaginary Ridley Corner that they got tossed into.

edited 10th Dec '15 11:21:19 AM by Demonfly

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#84608: Dec 10th 2015 at 11:25:14 AM

The issue with that is that Ice Climbers would only garner the attention of people that both play smash and liked the Ice Climbers enough to want them back.

I wouldn't mind them coming back, but the man power to make them is better spent on a new character that would get a lot more people's attention.

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#84609: Dec 10th 2015 at 11:32:27 AM

I don't know about you, but I kind of want the veterans to finish showing up before we get any more newcomers.

Call me narrow minded, but I like being in a familiar comfort zone.

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
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#84610: Dec 10th 2015 at 12:36:14 PM

Opposite. I want those $4-5 to be of Ryu and Cloud uniqueness. Which is why I really don't care to see Wolf or Snake come back.

I definitely want to see how a certain ink swimming mechanic would be incorporated into Smash.

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#84611: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:35:03 PM

The Ice Climbers shouldn't come back. And if they do, they need to be reworked to work on both systems.

I guess my issue is with not wanting console exclusive fighters. Sakurai has the right idea in keeping the rosters the same.

Still super hyped with Cloud though. I do wish Lightning would have been considered.

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
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#84612: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:40:20 PM

Would have ultimately preferred Terra.

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#84613: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:41:09 PM

I just feel like we've been getting a little too out there, you know? I feel like the series needs to keep revisiting its roots.

Ryu and Cloud are nice, but if the pattern keeps up, we'll have nothing but Dancing Bears.

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#84614: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:42:00 PM

Nah. Lightning has more star power.

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#84615: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:43:07 PM

Not more than Cloud though and that's what matters in the end.

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#84616: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:44:21 PM

Besides, Lightning's famous for something else nowadays.

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#84617: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:47:47 PM

[up] There ain't nothing wrong with that. In fact, the only reason I didn't play her game is because the boss fights are so DAMN HARD.

She's a great female character and one of my favorite heroines. It just sucks that I can't finish her game trilogy.

Cloud's pretty cool too though so I'm not complaining.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#84618: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:56:26 PM

I heard Lightning was bland and her games weren't very good.

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#84619: Dec 10th 2015 at 1:57:30 PM

[up]That's what I've heard as well.

I've heard even more so from a person that knew nothing of the game or Lightning before she started playing it (and beat it).

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#84620: Dec 10th 2015 at 2:21:24 PM

I'd be more surprised if none of the following get in:

  • Wolf
  • King K. Rool
  • Inkling
  • Isaac
  • Shantae
  • Shovel Knight
  • Paper Mario
  • Sceptile
  • A Dragon Quest Protagonist
  • Ni GH Ts or Tails as a second Sega rep
  • Lloyd Irving
  • Snake
  • Simon Belmont
  • Bomberman

And the latter 3 are unlikely because they are owned by Konami, and I think Sceptile is unlikely because that would overload the roster with Pokemon. Paper Mario at least represents a sub-series like DK, Yoshi, Wario, and Diddy Kong do so I wouldn't count him as a main series Mario character.

Question: When did fighting games actually start dubbing voices for characters? I know definitely that at least until the mid 2000s they used Japanese seiyu for voices and didn't bother dubbing (sometimes we'd get subtitles like in Inu Yasha: A Feudal Fairy Tale, but other times we wouldn't like in Street Fighter 2 and 3, Smash 64 and Melee, and the first few Soul Calibur games). Marvel vs. Capcom zigzagged with English/Japanese V As...The Marvel characters had English VA's while the Capcom characters spoke in Japanese.

I know Street Fighter 2 has justification because voice acting in games wasn't a huge thing until the N64/PS 1 era. So, when did fighting games actually start doing dubs?

edited 10th Dec '15 2:38:17 PM by powerpuffbats

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#84621: Dec 10th 2015 at 2:33:43 PM

That, and Sceptile isn't even an important pokémon.

Paper Mario, we already have Mario and Dr. Mario. We don't need a third Mario.

edited 10th Dec '15 2:34:36 PM by BaffleBlend

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#84622: Dec 10th 2015 at 2:38:37 PM

Isaac is who I want to get in, Inkling is who I know is going to get in, and yet Sakurai's probably going to find some way to mix things up anyways.

I'm curious as to an Inkling mechanic would work. Such a large part of the game is spraying down ink, but there's no way to tell where you put down ink reliably because Smash is a 2.5D vertical fighting game.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#84623: Dec 10th 2015 at 2:39:07 PM

I see Sceptile as a common request.

Admittedly with Paper Mario, I was thinking who would be a likely newcomer for Mario.

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#84624: Dec 10th 2015 at 2:42:04 PM

Well, whenever I see a request for Sceptile, the reason usually amounts to nothing more than "he's a Grass-Type". Which, if you ask me, is a puh-retty flimsy reason.

edited 10th Dec '15 2:42:24 PM by BaffleBlend

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#84625: Dec 10th 2015 at 2:42:06 PM

Hm, I think Paper Mario could be a completely different take on Mario. All his moves, inspired by his games, could be un-clonish.

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