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WaterMasterGali92 Hello again! from Remnant Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#84576: Dec 9th 2015 at 5:56:09 PM

I hope not. I kinda need to update my credit card status. Anyone know where I can change it?

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#84577: Dec 9th 2015 at 6:56:35 PM

My list of fighting game mains will see an update to add Inu Yasha: A Feudal Fairy Tale for PS 1. Maybe by next week I'll know who I like using most.

Having approximately the same amount of characters as SSB 64 will make it easy.

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#84578: Dec 9th 2015 at 6:59:55 PM

According to the SSB site, Midgar is packaged with Cloud, yeah.

No price yet though.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#84579: Dec 9th 2015 at 7:10:59 PM

Doesn't surprise me as Suzaku Castle is bundled with Ryu.

I think we'll get a price at the Direct.

I did have to tell my mom that Cloud (and any DLC characters that release with him, if I have enough moneys) will be the only thing I really spend on between now and Christmas.

edited 9th Dec '15 7:15:02 PM by powerpuffbats

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WaterMasterGali92 Hello again! from Remnant Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#84580: Dec 9th 2015 at 11:09:13 PM

Okay.

I might see if I can get a $50 prepaid card and just use that for a good while.

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Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#84581: Dec 10th 2015 at 4:28:00 AM

Isn't Ryu + Suzaku Castle like 7€? I'm expecting that for Cloud and Midgar.

Songs we know Midgar will have:

  • Those who fight (general battle tune)
  • Those who fight further (normal boss tune)

Songs that are sure to be in but not revealed yet:

  • J.E.N.O.V.A (either original, the metal remix, or both)
  • One Winged Angel (see above)

Songs I'm hoping for:

  • Electric De Chocobo (it's the best silly song)
  • G-Bike (the minigame where you ride a motorbike)
  • Bombing Mission (the "intro" but with the first minute cut, considering the default two minute time limit of matches. And the 70 second intro part of the song)

There's more, but I don't want to make a huge list right now.

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#84582: Dec 10th 2015 at 4:35:31 AM

I'm not expecting it, but Birth of a God would be nice. FFVII just had excellent boss battle music in general.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#84583: Dec 10th 2015 at 5:25:38 AM

Obviously one of the songs will be this:

I would laugh so hard if that happens.

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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#84584: Dec 10th 2015 at 6:27:25 AM

They'll create a Taunt Pack DLC for $5 that adds an additional taunt (assigned to the left D-pad button; the current side taunt will stay on the right D-pad button) for each character. Headlined, of course, by the Luigi Death Stare.

I suspect something about the future of Smash (beyond the 3DS and WiiU offerings) will be announced, but in all seriousness, I have no idea what that might be.

Oh, and I suspect we'll get announcements as to when the remaining Smash amiibo will come out.

edited 10th Dec '15 6:27:51 AM by 32_Footsteps

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#84585: Dec 10th 2015 at 8:15:20 AM

When you said "Smash" amiibo, I thought you meant an amiibo shaped like the Smash Ball.

"Smash Ball Smashes into Smash!".

;p What do you think would happen when it breaks a Smash Ball?

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#84586: Dec 10th 2015 at 8:40:57 AM

[up] Master Core.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#84587: Dec 10th 2015 at 8:42:15 AM

I'm expecting at least one of the missing veterans to be announced in the direct, since the category as a whole probably swamped the ballot by a landslide.

  • Wolf is likely and expected; less effort to make, a game he's featured in is on its way, and Sakurai personally likes the character.
  • Snake is possible. As screwed up as Konami is nowadays, Kojima is still Sakurai's best friend, so he's probably at least considering him.
  • The Ice Climbers would take a lot of effort to compress them enough to work on not only the 3DS version, but 8-Player Smash. They didn't have enough time to figure out a way during the game's main development, but now that that's done, they might be a possibility. Might.
  • Ivysaur, while possible (and welcome), I wouldn't hold out hope for. Same with Squirtle.
  • Pichu is very unlikely, but somewhat possible due to his unique gimmick.
  • Young Link is very, very unlikely. Toon Link fills his niche already and, while YL has OOT and MM 3D, TL has Triforce Heroes.

edited 10th Dec '15 8:43:40 AM by BaffleBlend

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#84588: Dec 10th 2015 at 8:48:43 AM

wild mass guessMaster Core is just a corrupted Smash Ball that took on sentience and developed giant hands to fight its attackers.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#84589: Dec 10th 2015 at 9:02:52 AM

I wonder how much backlash there might be if Wolf returned with his Landmaster intact...

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#84590: Dec 10th 2015 at 9:09:32 AM

For veterans currently not in...

Wolf is the most likely of the ones who missed the cut previously. Plays distinctly enough to not be a clone, but with enough info that I think he'd be much easier than a complete ground-up build. My only hope is no Landmaster (maybe have a Wolfen do a strafing run instead for a Final Smash).

The only way I could see Young Link added would be either a) an alternate palette for Toon Link, or b) an outfit for a Mii Swordfighter. Toon Link compeltely fills the niche Young Link had in Melee.

I don't think Snake will get added, but it has nothing to do with Sakurai or anyone at Nintendo. The whole mess with Konami has spiraled out of control; about the only way I could see them agreeing would be if they were convinced to say "fuck it" and just get a quick buck from the income from the DLC... and even then, I suspect they'd do something stupid like demand too much of the profits from the DLC, killing the prospect. Relatedly, as much as I've rooted for Simon Belmont in the past, I suspect he also is a no-go. the TLDR version - Snake is probably no because Konami sucks.

The only way I see the Ice Climbers getting in is if they were locked to the WiiU version, because I suspect they'd be viewed as too much and too chaotic for the 3DS version. And that would just be a slippery slope.

Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Pichu are almost certain not in, I would bet. Pichu... come on, nobody liked Pichu. The others, I just don't think people cared enough. Squirtle was popular, but I just don't think the developers like small, light characters as much. Ivysaur... honestly, if I were to pick any Grass-type character to make it, Chesnaught is my pick.

If I were to actually seriously pick who would get in... honestly, after Cloud, I couldn't even hazard a guess. I'll just say Master Chief to intentionally be as ridiculous and wrong as possible.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#84591: Dec 10th 2015 at 9:13:33 AM

Sakurai's friendship with Kojima means nothing at this point since Kojima almost certainly has no say whether or not Snake is allowed in Smash. Nintendo apparently does have some sort of relationship with Konami, but I wouldn't expect anything big to come from that.

So we'll get Wolf and another newcomer or two.

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#84592: Dec 10th 2015 at 9:18:16 AM

Although I think there's really no telling who will be confirmed in the Direct, I'm still thinking that Wolf is pretty much a given, seeing as how we've got Star Fox Zero coming up.

I really don't think Snake is going to come back, unfortunately. Even if it was all up to Kojima, I feel like Konami wouldn't let him.

Aside from Wolf or Snake, the only other veteran characters I'd really like to see or care about returning are the Ice Climbers (who aren't even likely in the first place for reasons everyone and their grandmother likely knows about by now) or Ivysaur (and even then, I also would rather see a new Grass-type Pokemon in Smash, such as Sceptile, Chesnaught, or whoever).

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#84593: Dec 10th 2015 at 9:33:00 AM

[up][up][up]Locking the Ice Climbers to the Wii U version wouldn't do anything. Again, 8-Player Smash.

If they're too memory-straining for the 3DS, then they're also too memory-straining for 8-Player, and vice-versa. With them, it's either serious compression or nothing at all.

edited 10th Dec '15 9:35:27 AM by BaffleBlend

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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#84594: Dec 10th 2015 at 9:36:01 AM

Is there any reason to believe that having 8 Ice Climbers on the screen at the same time would be that onerous for the system? My biggest concern for it on the 3DS is for screen real estate (which already is an issue for portable Smash), but I don't think that's a concern for Nintendo when it comes to the WiiU version.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#84595: Dec 10th 2015 at 9:37:03 AM

[up]Look at how chopped-down most of the stages in 8-player are, and how it took us several updates to even access most of them. 8-player just barely manages to exist as it is.

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#84596: Dec 10th 2015 at 9:43:29 AM

At the same time, though, part of that is the onerousness of having potentially 8 radically different characters with radically different movesets all chugging along at once. The second Ice Climber is nigh-identical in skin and completely identical in mechanics to the first, which does help alleviate some of the load. Also, they have gotten better at programming for that many identical-behaving drones with the WiiU (look at how well Hyrule Warriors plays). I think Nana and Popo are feasible on the WiiU today, even if they weren't at the game's release.

That said, I don't think they could make it in the 3DS version. About the only way I could see it happening would be if you only had a solo Ice Climber in that version with a much different moveset. Which, honestly, I wouldn't mind.

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#84597: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:01:09 AM

I don't know why people keep hoping for Ice Climbers. If they can't work on both, they're not getting in. Both games have to have the same fighters.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84598: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:02:00 AM

I kinda have some hope for them because Sakurai implied that it wasn't impossible to get them working, they just failed to do so within the timeframe of the game's development.

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Kyotor Since: Mar, 2015
#84599: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:05:09 AM

Listen, all I really want is a new Paper Mario game. Discount Paper Jam, that isn't relevant. Just give me TTYD 2 and I'll be happy.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#84600: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:10:12 AM

I don't know why people keep hoping for Ice Climbers

I suppose hoping for Cloud was more rational somehow?

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