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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#84176: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:07:02 PM

It's suspicious, especially since I believe they were still working on a lot of stuff just recently. But I'm not aware of any sort of legal action in this category that would require them to lie about being shut down, so it's probably mostly true. My guess, unless they were just hired by Sony to make PSASBR2, they had some sort of falling out and decided to end things before it spilled out into the project.

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#84177: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:07:54 PM

The subreddit posters are making good points. The lack of concrete information and the modders' refusal to talk about what happened means we have to assume Nintendo took some sort of legal action.

edited 1st Dec '15 9:08:19 PM by Karxrida

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#84178: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:14:43 PM

Well damn. I may have never played it, but now I'm sad that I never can.

I have a message from another time...
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#84179: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:17:29 PM

Why Nintendo? If they got hired by anyone official (if they did, it wouldn't be Nintendo), then they'd want to distance themselves from this sort of stuff right away. That's something they wouldn't be able to talk about while also not having any threatening legal action involved. If Nintendo shut them down and somehow forced them to be quiet (can they do that?) I doubt they'd be specifically saying there was no legal action instead of staying as quiet as possible. So yeah, my money is now on them being hired by someone.

Or Sakurai started camping outside the window and gave them the stink eye. That wouldn't surprise me either.

Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#84180: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:17:37 PM

[up][up]

I'm not going to be surprised if someone puts a mirror of it up soon.

edited 1st Dec '15 9:21:39 PM by Beaver

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84181: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:20:36 PM

I don't think you can force them not to say why it was taken down.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#84182: Dec 1st 2015 at 10:06:34 PM

IIRC, they had been saying for a while that they were moving away from PM to work on other things.

Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#84184: Dec 1st 2015 at 10:56:16 PM

Yeah, that's what it had to be.

alioth Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#84185: Dec 1st 2015 at 11:07:53 PM

Hopefully the community for it stays around. It's by far my favorite of the games, both mechanics wise and for having the characters I like to play as be viable.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#84186: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:34:18 AM

You know the only surprises are that it took this long and that nintendo didn't have to necessarily do anything.

But I'm not going to mourn the loss of a mod that bored me to tears when I played it.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#84187: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:39:19 AM

The most optimistic outcome is that Nintendo struck a deal with them. They did have good ideas that Nintendo did seem to have their eye on.

And Nintendo's very well-known for how they force people working under them into total secrecy.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#84188: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:43:35 AM

It's surprising it lived for as long as it did, and it's not like it won't disappear anytime soon. But as is the way of modders and fangame creators that start to make it big, it's only natural this stuff comes to a close as the people behind it realize they could be doing a lot more productive and lucrative projects. For example, this Project Wavedash. At some point, folks like them had to realize they could be doing something a lot bigger than just a mod.

I fear for them, a little bit, because even with the links down and the website wrapped up, it's not like Nintendo doesn't know what's been going on. Like they worried, it's possible Nintendo might pull the rug from under them in the future if they work on a project too similar to Smash Bros.

Is Nintendo really that well-known for, er, "silencing" people?

edited 2nd Dec '15 4:44:47 AM by HeavyDDR

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Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
loafing about
#84189: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:52:36 AM

Well, Mario is an American Italian, if we want to break out somewhat offensive stereotypes...

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#84190: Dec 2nd 2015 at 5:25:45 AM

[up][up]I'm talking about people who work under them.

Which I'm hoping some of the PM team is about to do.

edited 2nd Dec '15 5:26:14 AM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#84191: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:15:44 AM

Damn...PM is no more.

I guess that makes SSF 2 the go to fangame.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#84193: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:18:50 AM

Just to clarify on this, Super Smash Land doesn't count as a black mark on the Rivals of Aether developer because that was made from the ground up. Right?

Anyways, for the P:M guys, here's hoping their next project takes off (whatever it is.) Never was a fan of their mod buuuuuuut some people really did like that gameplay style, and I have to admit some of the stuff they did do was impressive~.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#84194: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:24:21 AM

At the very least, I'll make sure their stages live on in 4's stage builder.

EDIT:

As an ex member of the PMDT

Knuckles was real. I'd say 98% ready to roll. Lyn was real. I'd say about 85% ready to roll. Isaac was real. No where near close to complete but real. Skull Kid was concept. Sami was real. Only in model though.

I held back out of respect before.

KO Kingpin

welp

edited 2nd Dec '15 6:34:06 AM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
loafing about
#84195: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:47:13 AM

Just to clarify on this, Super Smash Land doesn't count as a black mark on the Rivals of Aether developer because that was made from the ground up. Right?
I would believe so. I mean, Project M was basically built on Brawl's engine or something, being technically a fan-hack, right?

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#84196: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:48:04 AM

What a shame. At any rate, warchamp says they didn't get a C&D, at least.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#84197: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:54:05 AM

Yeeeeah, a lot of us don't believe that for a second.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#84198: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:55:22 AM

Cue them making it into the Smash dev team.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#84199: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:56:10 AM

[up]I seriously hope that's what's going on. As much as I love Smash 4, it does got itself some flaws.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#84200: Dec 2nd 2015 at 6:59:32 AM

Like falling for the memetic nature of Ridley...


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