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Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#84051: Nov 28th 2015 at 9:33:39 PM

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Yeah, 10 years ago if you told anybody Mario, Sonic, Pac-Man, Ryu, Mega Man, and Cloud would be in a game together, you would have been laughed at.

edited 28th Nov '15 9:34:06 PM by Beaver

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
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#84052: Nov 28th 2015 at 9:34:44 PM

[up][up][up] To be fair towards that mindset: Mario sux and has no depth lelz.

edited 28th Nov '15 9:35:15 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#84053: Nov 28th 2015 at 9:37:51 PM

[up]false!

But more seriously, that's the point. The mario games aren't supposed to be deep. They're supposed to be fun. Which they very much are.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
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#84055: Nov 28th 2015 at 9:42:38 PM

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That's kinda the intent. They're supposed to be fun little adventure for everyone to pick up and enjoy. It's not Dark Souls you know.

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
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#84056: Nov 28th 2015 at 9:55:31 PM

I'd just like if the series had some sense of canon and for the characters to have character development.

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#84057: Nov 28th 2015 at 9:58:27 PM

But that isn't the point of them at all

That is the opposite of their point

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#84058: Nov 28th 2015 at 10:02:23 PM

Just as much as Kirby is all I'm asking.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#84059: Nov 28th 2015 at 11:12:00 PM

Yeah, the Zelda fandom does have a bit of a rivalry with Mario fans.

I think 10 years ago you would be told that you're crazy that Snake, Sonic, Cloud, Ryu, Mega Man, and Pac Man would all appear in Smash Bros.

Of course, 9 years ago we would have just gotten Super Smash Flash which has Sonic and Cloud in it.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
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#84060: Nov 29th 2015 at 12:29:10 AM

Roy is fun. He's like Marth but actually suited to my playstyle.

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#84061: Nov 29th 2015 at 12:31:40 AM

Mario was fun and I will always love his series but the newer games are just bad.

Except for Mario Maker no Mario game has been really innovative lately. Same with Zelda. Tri-Force Heroes?

It's probably not my cup of tea. (I am super hyped for Hyrule Warriors 3DS) but still, I haven't seen anything that hasn't been done before, and when I do it's unnecessary gimmicks like three links and catsuits.

You can't get it wrong if it's the truth!
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#84062: Nov 29th 2015 at 12:32:34 AM

3d World is fun though.

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#84063: Nov 29th 2015 at 12:35:45 AM

Fun with no plot or character.

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#84064: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:25:10 AM

Just like Smash Bros!

Atleast for the plot part.

edited 29th Nov '15 1:25:29 AM by Geist-Fox

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#84065: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:56:45 AM

Lately = 2010 onwards?

There isn't a complete absence of new ideas, the sameness just overshadows the new stuff...and people "hate" the "New" games because anything not completely innovative deserves hate.

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#84066: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:31:58 AM

There's only so many times you can recycle the same thing before it gets old. But I'm a huge COD fan so I guess I shouldn't be talking. I guess what I'm looking for is not just innovation, but just something...

Different. How about a Daisy game? Or a Fire Emblem anime? Or a Zelda movie?

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#84067: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:33:38 AM

[up][up][up]I'm still a little salty that Sm4sh doesn't have story mode.

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#84068: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:38:29 AM

[up] Agreed..

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#84069: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:47:19 AM

Or a Fire Emblem anime?

That happened, technically. Granted, it's just a 2-episode OAV.

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#84070: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:23:33 AM

Mario has a fuck ton of depth (check out any speed run) and has been better than Zelda ever since the Wii.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#84071: Nov 29th 2015 at 8:54:18 AM

[up]I will agree on this one because I've played Mario on the Wii more than I have played Zelda. Like, TP and SS are not in my top 10 Wii games.

I think Nintendo should've made the Wiimote optional for all of its games like they do with the Gamepad.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
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#84072: Nov 29th 2015 at 11:03:31 AM

Honestly, I think it depends what you want out of the games. The Mario games are gameplay-focused, the Zelda games less-so. It's apples and oranges. Personally, I'd rather have good gameplay with an Excuse Plot than a deep story with lousy gameplay. I can get story from pretty much any other type of media; if I'm playing a video game, I want to play it.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#84073: Nov 29th 2015 at 11:12:20 AM

This is actually what I say in response to the whole "story is more important than gameplay" arguments one of my former Livejournal friends tended to give to me, especially when I asked her if I should play Pokemon Gen 1 before Gen 2 when I was talking about gameplay, or really when anyone else gives it:

A good story means nothing to a game when it is not fun to play. (like Sonic '06 I'd say has a decent plot overall, but its gameplay is horrendous)

(Although my friend tried to compare playing Gen 2 before Gen 1 to watching Empire Strikes Back before A New Hope, even though the components needed to make a good movie are different than the components needed to make a good game.)

I've never gotten why some think that story is more important than gameplay in general (It's equally important for RP Gs, but that's really it).

edited 29th Nov '15 11:12:40 AM by powerpuffbats

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
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#84074: Nov 29th 2015 at 12:56:29 PM

like Sonic '06 I'd say has a decent plot overall
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#84075: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:05:20 PM

I liked Sonic 06 for its characters and its plot and even its bugs.

Worst things were just the long loading times, Silver's near-impossible fight and the missing gems...

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