TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Super Smash Bros.

Go To

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#83326: Nov 14th 2015 at 8:42:51 AM

@Watch: Heck, even Snake could be argued to be one of the most important Stealth Game characters. The genre itself isn't as big as the others, but still.

Reaction Image Repository
MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#83327: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:01:53 AM

Except the fact that it can be argued at all is my point; some people see certain characters as iconic, and some have no idea who they are.

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#83328: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:09:08 AM

Iconic-ness has to do with the general public's perception of the character as a whole. Just because some bum thinks that a random obscure character is iconic because it's their favorite doesn't that character iconic.

KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#83329: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:12:18 AM

[up]This. Millions of people who play video games know who Snake, Cloud, Sonic, Mega Man, Ryu and Pac-Man are as they come from major franchises that have sold millions of copies. You can't say the same about someone like Shantae of Shovel Knight.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#83330: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:14:47 AM

Hmm... what companies have been big on a Nintendo console at some point, who have a defined, well-known protagonist that may or may not be a company mascot, and whose big company isn't already represented as playable?

edited 14th Nov '15 9:39:20 AM by wanderlustwarrior

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#83331: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:19:26 AM

Also if it was left to opinion, then people could claim Mario wasn't really iconic for some reason. They would be objectively wrong because he's one of the most famous video game characters in history. You cannot argue this.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#83332: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:21:38 AM

Except that your argument said "General public" and was followed up by "millions of gamers". Because the general public are all gamers.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#83333: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:22:08 AM

[up][up][up][up] Shantae isn't from Shovel Knight tongue

Seriously though, Iconiness seems pretty subjective. The closet you can really get is looking at a character/series's history (Which some might argue isn't relevant any more) or how advertised they were/are. As far as I can tell. That or mass polling of people.

And yeah, Shantae and Shovel Knight might have a disadvantage when it comes to advertisement or iconicness among the general public. But for Indie gaming in general it seems like they have the best shot, at least to me.

edited 14th Nov '15 9:41:41 AM by BlitzTrain

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#83334: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:25:09 AM

... It just occurred to me that if Shantae was playable, I probably wouldn't actually like playing as her because she'd be one of those characters who jump high but have bad horizontal mobility in mid-air.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#83335: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:48:03 AM

The whole issue with iconicness can stem from how knowledgeable you are in a medium. I seriously have an online friend who has no idea who Deadpool is.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#83336: Nov 14th 2015 at 9:51:28 AM

Good for them. Deadpool fans can be very annoying, I'm glad they were able to avoid that much interaction so far.

It's a little disappointing that people are so quiet about Commander Video compared to Shantae or Shovel Knight.

edited 14th Nov '15 9:54:23 AM by wanderlustwarrior

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#83337: Nov 14th 2015 at 10:05:33 AM

As far as Disgaea goes, I'd say that Etna is probably just as well known as Laharl is, if not more so. Though he's the protagonist, which would still give him the edge.

Reaction Image Repository
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#83338: Nov 14th 2015 at 11:35:30 AM

[up][up]More like she doesn't read comics at all and only knows of superheroes through the movies and cartoons.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#83340: Nov 14th 2015 at 12:33:39 PM

Of course Mewtwo's would be the slowest

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#83341: Nov 14th 2015 at 1:32:00 PM

Realistically for future DLC, I'd say the Inkling Girl (and boy) will eventually make it in.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#83342: Nov 14th 2015 at 1:47:54 PM

Of course I don't have Lylat on 3ds to try that out... Looks handy. And a little bit of messing around with it gives me a few (probably not new to anyone else) ideas for being able to use a F-air on people ledge guarding...

Starting to look like the kind of thing that will ruin my joystick if I practice it too long though tongue

IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#83343: Nov 14th 2015 at 2:04:57 PM

Would people prefer the Inkling Girl as the one repping Splatoon or Agent 3? I'm slowly starting to prefer the idea of an Inkling in Smash as Agent 3.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#83344: Nov 14th 2015 at 2:05:30 PM

If Ubisoft was to have a rep it'd probably be to put Rayman in after all.

PrincessGwen The Wicked Witch of the West from In the U.S.A Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
The Wicked Witch of the West
#83345: Nov 14th 2015 at 2:17:30 PM

Honestly, who knows what characters they're going to add next?

"And nobody, in all of Oz, no wizard that is or was, is ever gonna bring ME DOWN!"
Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#83346: Nov 14th 2015 at 2:43:34 PM

If we're talking Nippon Ichi reps, I'm pulling for (Hero) Prinny and/or Asagi, the latter of which will probably eclipse Laharl at some point.

Second most popular character as is!

kablammin45 Catch my shiny metal birb! from Misty Brook (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Catch my shiny metal birb!
#83347: Nov 14th 2015 at 3:00:22 PM

[up][up][up] Rayman would make a lot more sense, especially since there are already Rayman trophies in Smash Wii U and he's already a popular request.

edited 14th Nov '15 3:00:43 PM by kablammin45

"I'm glad I don't wear shoes or else I'd have to always get shoes in two different sizes. ...If you know, you know!"
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#83348: Nov 14th 2015 at 3:07:22 PM

If Inklings get into Smash, they'd most likely have both genders labeled as Inkling. Labeling them as Agent 3 would be pretty dumb. They aren't known as Agent 3 except in the single player, Inkling is more fitting.

IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#83349: Nov 14th 2015 at 3:13:55 PM

I've kinda gotten sick of names like "Villager" or "Wii Fit Tainer" which is why I'm warming up to something that sounds like an actual name.

kablammin45 Catch my shiny metal birb! from Misty Brook (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Catch my shiny metal birb!
#83350: Nov 14th 2015 at 3:36:36 PM

[up] Hm, I actually gave nicknames to all the Villagers (when I made custom movesets) instead of just calling them Male Villager, Female Villager, that other Villager, etc.

Standard Boy Villager: Jimbo
Pink Haired Girl Villager: Tina
Yellow Shirt Boy Villager: Phillip
Turnip Tee Girl Villager: Jessie
Sleepy Eyed Boy Villager: Edward
Striped Tee Girl Villager: Abigail
Purple Shirt "4" Boy Villager: Curtis
Sleepy Eyed Girl Villager: Allison

On that note, I gave the Wii Fit Trainers the names Jennifer and Johnathon Fit.

edited 14th Nov '15 3:41:06 PM by kablammin45

"I'm glad I don't wear shoes or else I'd have to always get shoes in two different sizes. ...If you know, you know!"

Total posts: 148,710
Top