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BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#82951: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:36:07 PM

On the plus side, does this make Cloud (Potentially) the only non-link sword user to not have a counter? tongue

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#82952: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:38:29 PM

It looks like Cloud is going to be one of those "shock value" characters that everyone is going to go "WTF" at first and then will become loved soon as an addition to Smash, à la Wii Fit Trainer and Duck Hunt.

As for Cloud himself...eh. I mean, it's cool that he's in and lots of gamers recognize him, but he just looks like another swordsman to me. My knowledge of the Final Fantasy series, especially of VII, is minimal, so to fans his moveset must probably be bursting with fanservice. Maybe he has a twist to the usual swordfighter like Shulk that I'm just not aware of right now. But either way, very, uh, unexpected.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#82953: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:39:24 PM

I mean, I'd be pretty shocked if his Down Special isn't Finishing Touch or Meteorain- Big slow projectile attacks, basically- considering how his Limit Breaks are, at least in concept, as central to his fighting style as Shulk's Monado Arts.

[up]Basically, think more Robin and less Link or Marth, though more balanced in terms of magic and sword-bashing ratios.

edited 12th Nov '15 3:40:47 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
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#82954: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:40:21 PM

Song predictions:

One-Winged Angel remix

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#82955: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:40:57 PM

Limit Breaks should make for a good variation on his fighting style.

But like it's hard not to make fun of

It's Cloud

In Smash

Hit the nail right on the head there.

[up]That song has been remixed and remastered how many times already? ...Eh, who cares!? SEPHIROTH!

edited 12th Nov '15 3:42:07 PM by Elbruno

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#82956: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:43:25 PM

I must admit that, Wolverine Publicity aside, I do like the fact Cloud being in means we have another "gaming legend" in Smash, alongside Ryu.

Also, this seems to be the most polarized inclusion I've seen yet, even here, which is saying something.

As for promotions, Dissidia Arcade is still on the horizon, as is the Final Fantasy VII Remake, so it's not like there's nothing new coming up for Cloud in the near future.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#82957: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:43:46 PM

Since we got a lot of people going "Oh that guy" right now, I'll go ahead and post this so people can get a feel for what to expect from Cloud as far as his flashier attacks go.

I sure said that!
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#82958: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:45:33 PM

The only complaint I really have with Cloud is he's scrawny!Cloud instead of muscles!Cloud. I still don't understand why scrawny!Cloud is the iconic one...

But hey, the Advent Children costume looks really cool anyways. Again, I want him entirely based off of the cool factor.

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#82960: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:47:49 PM

I'm not even a Final Fantasy fan, but I got SO MUCH HYPE

From what it looks like, his Limit Break might be similar to Little Mac's Power Meter, but for more than just one attack.

Basically, like an overdrive you can go in to if you meet certain conditions. That'll be INCREDIBLY satisfying.

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#82961: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:48:30 PM

@Pulse: Actually, I think his down-special may charge his Limit Break bar while held, which then buffs his attacks when filled. That's the vibe I got from it.

edited 12th Nov '15 3:48:47 PM by TheHeroHartmut

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#82962: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:49:02 PM

(Edited out because apparently I still don't know how to control my anger.)

edited 12th Nov '15 3:53:42 PM by BaffleBlend

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#82963: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:50:27 PM

Ooookaythen. You do you, Smash Bros. You do you.

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#82964: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:50:28 PM

Smash 4 got Mario, Link, Pac-Man, Sonic, Mega Man, and now Ryu and Cloud. A real who's who of iconic gaming characters.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#82965: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:50:57 PM

@Pulse: Actually, I think his down-special may charge his Limit Break bar while held, which then buffs his attacks when filled. That's the vibe I got from it.
That could well be it, too- Regardless, he definitely has a Limit Break meter that may or may not be much like Mac's Power Meter, and it seems to result in him performing, to grab a phrase from more traditional fighting games, an EX version of his attacks, like multi-hit Blade Beam.

edited 12th Nov '15 3:51:58 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
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#82966: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:51:31 PM

The announcement that no one ever saw coming!

And it is glorious!

The meltdowns around forums everywhere especially make me excited.

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#82967: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:52:12 PM

[up][up][up]Estrogen Brigade bait...

And Pacman.tongue

EDIT: Wait, Pacman was popular with the ladies.

Mega Man, then!

edited 12th Nov '15 3:54:35 PM by Grounder

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#82968: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:52:17 PM

Dear Christ, we're just going to snatch-n-grab all the third-parties, aren't we? grin

Someone mentioned PSASBR, and I gotta admit it's a bit depressing. Poor thing had to jump for that third-party support, and was forced to play ball and plug a bunch of other games. PSASBR back then would've been forced to throw in a gutted Lightning had SE actually gave a shit about them. But then here comes Nintendo, picking up gaming icons left and right, coming in and just like "Yo, we want Cloud, we got this".

And more shit coming in December? Hype train too OP, plz halp. [lol]

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#82969: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:53:23 PM

[up]82962 The only way I can see myself not complain about Panel de Pon is if Nintendo decides to stop trying to bury it, which won't happen, at least not anytime soon. Which is a shame, because there's so much to love about it.

edited 12th Nov '15 3:54:30 PM by Midna

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#82970: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:54:03 PM

@Baffle: Hey now, that was a bit too mean, don't ya think?

... It's a good thing you edited that out before I took action.

edited 12th Nov '15 3:54:43 PM by Konkfan7

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The Fool
#82971: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:54:22 PM

I do kinda hope we cap out at seven third party characters, though- I dunno, it sounds weird to me to imagine an Eight-Player Smash battle where everyone can pick a different character and no one picks someone from Nintendo's library. We're up to five right now!

edited 12th Nov '15 3:54:57 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
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#82972: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:54:48 PM

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#82973: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:54:52 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, I got carried away.

[up][up][up][up]You have to understand, though, you have a serious case of Fan Myopia every time a character is announced.

And please keep it away from the Insecurities thread.

edited 12th Nov '15 3:59:21 PM by BaffleBlend

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#82974: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:55:48 PM

If they were trying to bury Panel whatever then they wouldn't have Lip's Stick in the games at all.

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#82975: Nov 12th 2015 at 3:56:15 PM

I am convinced that time and logic itself have ceased to make sense. I feel like I reached some new euphoric high when I realized that Cloud got into Smash Brothers before Sony would dare to put him in Playstation All Stars.

Sakurai's mind is an enigma. We try to work around it, we try to reason our way into it. "It's between Isaac and K. Rool" we say to ourselves, "Inklings are a lock", we say to ourselves, "Wolf might happen", we say to ourselves.

We convince ourselves that we can ever understand the endless labyrinth of the Mashed Potatoes Samurai and that really frightens me. I'm a huge smash nerd, and I remember from 2012-2014 spending hours with other nerds on sites from Game FA Qs to Smash Boards trying to figure out the perfect Smash Roster, and yet every time Sakurai finds some new way to outsmart our expectations.

On an offhand note, while I'd be hype for Lip as much as the next guy... it's probably not happening. Honestly I've been rooting for Saki from Sin and Punishment for god knows how long but there's just a point where you have to stop caring.


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