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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82551: Nov 4th 2015 at 4:11:29 PM

System Transfer, found in Settings. It takes a while, though.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#82552: Nov 4th 2015 at 4:34:42 PM

Shovel Knight and Shantae theoretical moveset videos were interesting, makes them both look like entertaining potential additions to me smile

IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#82553: Nov 4th 2015 at 5:13:12 PM

The only things I think are really wrong about Lucas is the up air just not connecting sometimes and being able to shield grab the down smash. Lucas having a short-ranged tether doesn't seem like a design flaw to me.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#82554: Nov 4th 2015 at 5:21:10 PM

The issue with the Shantae one is the heavy focus on the Pirate's Curse items due to the thought of her usual transformations being too much strain for a 3DS, which is kind of a "maybe" point since what could count towards that is kind of up in the air.

TheHeroHartmut Too hot to hoot from Probably not right behind you (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Singularity
Too hot to hoot
#82555: Nov 4th 2015 at 5:54:51 PM

In fact, the Rope Snake not being 100% reliable is true to his role in Mother 3.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#82556: Nov 4th 2015 at 6:07:07 PM

It is a design flaw to give a character who pretty much depends entirely on throw combos/kills to function the worst grab in the game.

IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#82557: Nov 4th 2015 at 8:38:16 PM

I think the idea is that Lucas needs to work for that grab and get punished for trying to go for grabs all the time. Kinda like Zero Suit Samus in that regard. I don't know if I would consider Lucas' grab as the worst though...

Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
loafing about
#82558: Nov 4th 2015 at 8:49:04 PM

Did somebody mention awful grabs?

Except Nosferatu. While technically not a grab since you can't even throw with it, no grounded opponent expects a small hop Nosferatu and reactively shield, expecting a f-air or something.

edited 4th Nov '15 8:51:40 PM by Geist-Fox

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#82559: Nov 4th 2015 at 8:51:09 PM

Robin's at least comes out fast. Lucas's is slow with short range and a lot of lag if he misses.

Only grab I can think of that's worse is Greninja's.

Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
loafing about
#82560: Nov 4th 2015 at 8:53:00 PM

Hmm, speed isn't something I considered.

Though for Competitive Balance it makes sense that longer range grabs are going to leave you more open. But I suppose Link's grab comes out fast and has good reach, with the only drawback being the massive end lag if whiffed.

edited 4th Nov '15 8:53:50 PM by Geist-Fox

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#82561: Nov 4th 2015 at 8:54:39 PM

The moveset they were talking about in the Shantae video seemed fairly balanced across the different titles to me at least, but I've never played a game so that's literally the most exposure I've had for the series.

Mostly I was just looking for whether the ideas sounded like fun or not tongue

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#82562: Nov 4th 2015 at 8:56:38 PM

Toon Link's grab comes out at the same frame as Lucas's and it has better range to boot.

They should at least makes Lucas's grab the fastest tether if they're going to trade range.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#82563: Nov 4th 2015 at 11:40:16 PM

I keep being a little surprised to hear about Lucas' shortcomings. I have barely played as him by virtue of barely playing the game at all for several months now, but when I tried him, he seemed like an absolute joy to play, just flying all over the place while constantly throwing out attacks. But I guess I wasn't exactly playing against anyone who knew what to do against that.

PrincessGwen The Wicked Witch of the West from In the U.S.A Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
The Wicked Witch of the West
#82564: Nov 5th 2015 at 1:26:32 PM

I kind of played as Lucas in Brawl, but he wasn't one of my favorites.

"And nobody, in all of Oz, no wizard that is or was, is ever gonna bring ME DOWN!"
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#82565: Nov 5th 2015 at 1:37:02 PM

I never appreciated either of the Mother series characters until recently.

...i still have to beat Earthbound and Mother 3.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Lightblade Since: Jan, 2001
#82566: Nov 5th 2015 at 1:46:09 PM

Okay, my System Transfer from my old 3DS to my New 3DS is now in progress. And besides compatibility with amiibos (which I know very little about), I see two extra shoulder buttons and a C-Stick. Does this game use those?

edited 5th Nov '15 1:52:12 PM by Lightblade

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82567: Nov 5th 2015 at 1:47:54 PM

I still need to play Earth Bound a second time.

My friend seems to think that Disney would allow Sakurai to put Sora in Super Smash Bros because Disney would get money...Yeah, even I don't think it works like that.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#82568: Nov 5th 2015 at 1:48:41 PM

Wouldn't they also need permission from Square Enix?

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#82569: Nov 5th 2015 at 1:49:11 PM

[up][up][up]Nope. They function as normal L and R buttons as far as I'm aware.

[up][up]Pretty sure Sora is owned by Square Enix. It wouldn't be up to Disney.

edited 5th Nov '15 1:49:24 PM by EpicBleye

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#82570: Nov 5th 2015 at 1:57:24 PM

I was under the impression Disney owned all the original parts in Kingdom Hearts.

I think that's one of the reasons why people ask about Sora being in Disney Infinity, he's technically Disney property.

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videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#82571: Nov 5th 2015 at 2:16:23 PM

I see two extra shoulder buttons and a C-Stick. Does this game use those?

If I remember right, ZL does whatever you have assigned to R, and vice-versa. The C-Stick is used for smash attacks, much like the other Smash games.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#82572: Nov 5th 2015 at 3:49:07 PM

Huh, guess that means there's a slight advantage people with the new 3DS-s have over my original model? Well, I doubt I'm anywhere near the level where that's going to make a significant difference, but good to know

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82573: Nov 5th 2015 at 4:49:10 PM

I find Sora to be in a weird position as wouldn't Nintendo have two companies to go through to get Sora as a playable character?

I feel like the most likely Square reps would be either a Black Mage or Kefka.

edited 5th Nov '15 4:49:44 PM by powerpuffbats

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#82574: Nov 5th 2015 at 5:04:14 PM

I'm like 90% sure that Square owns Sora, and only Square.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#82575: Nov 5th 2015 at 5:16:20 PM

Who do you think is going to have the advantage when it comes to ownership negotiations, Disney or Square? Hint, it's not Square.


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