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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82501: Nov 3rd 2015 at 2:44:19 PM

Nairo doesn't play Robin or Lucina in tournaments anymore, alas. Unless he's deliberately not trying to win, as with his first set versus Zero in Big House 5.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#82502: Nov 3rd 2015 at 2:47:51 PM

[up]While maybe true, it wasn't like he was throwing the game away.

...And that is also a reason why Raziek is a bit bitter when people give credit to Nairo's Robin.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82503: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:00:54 PM

Hey, I main Robin myself. I'm not looking down on the character. Just saying that Nairo sticks to what's proven to work, for him. He plays to win, which means using the most optimal character and strategy he can.

And yeah, just because Nairo is the best player who plays Robin, doesn't mean he's the best Robin.

edited 3rd Nov '15 3:01:08 PM by Ninety

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#82504: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:06:29 PM

I remember his reasoning for going Robin and Meta-Knight...actually I can only remember the Meta-Knight part, but he wanted to see how Zero reacted to multiple Up Airs into an Up B which is something both Zero Suit Samus and Meta-Knight can do. I believe the Robin part had something to do with Robin's down throw.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#82505: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:10:34 PM

In a game like Smash where mobility is key, having atrocious mobility usually means the character better be overtuned in other aspects (like DDD's chaingrab in Brawl invalidating characters) to make it up for it.

And Robin had the luck of being the only character that has to deal with an ammo gimmick on top of that.

I like the character and I find him fun to play but I can't really see him as high tier, mid tier seems about right for him since he still hits pretty damn hard if he has the Levin Sword.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82506: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:26:09 PM

Oh yeah, no way he's high tier (I disagree with Dath and ESAM on that front). But I would put him in upper mid.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#82507: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:28:49 PM

I think Robin is top 25 which is pretty much upper-mid. However, the things that bother me about Robin isn't the ground speed, but the short-ranged grab and inability to escape being juggled.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82508: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:32:24 PM

Tiers don't matter for me since Mewtwo and Lucina are in my mains list.

I still remember that one Smash Kingdom short featuring Dr. Wright discussing tiers.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#82509: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:42:33 PM

You know, it would have been nice if Samus' various beam types were folded into her custom options. Also possibly her missiles.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#82510: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:33:11 PM

Robin does absymally on Smashville or Final Destination, I think. Stages with platforms are his paradise, since he can play trickier with the Levin Sword/Arcfire and doesn't need to worry about his horizontal mobility nearly as much.

I messed around with him (in my case, her) recently and she's loads of fun. I don't know why, my best guess is just the Levin Sword and how much kick it has to it.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#82511: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:36:07 PM

I do think though that people don't quite exploit Robin as much as they can. Waiting for him to waste the Levin Sword by playing defensively and then going crazy on him for the brief moment the sword is gone makes so that even if he grabs you he won't be able to kill you with D-Throw -> Levin Up-Air among other things. I don't think people have used Robin's ammo mechanics against him as much.

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#82512: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:39:14 PM

I still remember that one Smash Kingdom short featuring Dr. Wright discussing tiers.

Me too, honestly.evil grin

I think about it whenever I hear "tier".

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82513: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:01:35 PM

"I introduce a new campaign. My 'Tiers Are 4 Queers' campaign."

"When someone mentions the word 'tier', first shout out our motto. Then proceed with 1 of 5 options: Hit them with the Wiimote. Hit them with the Wiimote and Nunchuck. With them with the classic controller. Hit them with the Game Cube controller. If you are using a Wireless Game Cube controller, first remove the battery and jam it in their eye, then proceed with hitting them with the controller. Please note, however, if your Wiimote has a Wiimote jacket, before striking the offender, please either remove the Wiimote Jacket or superglue nails to the top of the Wiimote Jacket."

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#82514: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:35:38 PM

[lol]

The battery part gets me every time...! XD

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82515: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:48:42 PM

Those shorts were hilarious...

"Um, did we just do it?" -Mega Man

"Don't worry, I have a lot of experience putting on women's clothing." -Snake

The entire Mario vs. Link short because of Zelda and Peach "cheering" them on.

"WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY?!?" -Kirby reacting to a dick being made for Stage Builder

"What the hell? Where'd you come from? -gets puked on- This is so fucking disgusting" -Kirby upon seeing Petey Piranha

And of course, all of the King Dedede's PSA shorts

Snake, Kirby, King Dedede and Ganondorf were the funniest characters in those shorts.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#82516: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:52:21 PM

"WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY?!?" -Kirby reacting to a dick being made for Stage Builder

That can be applied to the stage builder now. XD

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82517: Nov 3rd 2015 at 6:46:17 PM

What's that from?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
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Too hot to hoot
#82518: Nov 3rd 2015 at 6:48:59 PM

Cpt. Falcon: FALCON PUUUUNCH!
[Lucas' head explodes]
Ness: Oh my god! You killed him!
Cpt. Falcon: Don't worry, kid; he's just a clone of you!
Ness: Oh, alright.

Switch FC code: SW-4420-1809-1805
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#82519: Nov 3rd 2015 at 7:06:05 PM

[up][up]A series of sprite based shorts called "Smash Kingdom".

This is the 33 minute video combining both Smash Kingdom and its sequel, Smash Kingdom Melee

Here is Smash Kingdom Lost Levels

  • Meta Knight (to Fox and Link): Hey, motherfucker and motherfucker Meta Knight is here!
  • Fox: About damn time you showed up! We've been waiting for you!
  • Meta Knight: Shut the hell up, I always arrive fashionably late! Now you ready to get this under way? (Fox pulls out blaster) What the fuck are you trying to do? (Meta Knight uses Dimensional Cape, Fox fires, Meta Knight K Os Fox from behind)

edited 3rd Nov '15 7:08:59 PM by powerpuffbats

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#82520: Nov 3rd 2015 at 7:41:30 PM

Whenever someone says "tiers are for queers," I say, "nice try, but I'm still not picking Sheik."

...I'm very, very flamboyantly pan.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#82521: Nov 3rd 2015 at 7:57:49 PM

While this is going on; possible alternate customs for Samus' missiles:

  • Seeker Missiles: fires five missiles at once instead of Super Missile. Missiles may have less homing or be weaker, I dunno.
  • Ice Missiles: Fires missile that freezes at higher percents. Diffusion Missiles instead of Super Missiles, with a freezing effect that weakens the further from the initial blast.

Beams are harder because of the differences between Prime and the rest of the series...

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#82522: Nov 3rd 2015 at 8:06:07 PM

Maybe instead of Seeker Missiles, we have... say, the Magmaul.

  • Magmaul: An arcing projectile that ignites for continuous damage. Doing a Smash input will launch the projectile faster and further, at the cost of a lobbed angle to set up tricks with.

I dunno, it's just an idea.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#82523: Nov 3rd 2015 at 8:28:17 PM

Well, I just went for the other missile power ups that Samus has available, things like the Hunter weapons didn't really figure in to things.

KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#82524: Nov 4th 2015 at 2:20:14 AM

And it's not like Marth and Roy were really popular among the FE fandom

Wrong! Marth was always a popular character among the Japanese FE fanbase. In fact, he was by far the most demanded FE character for Smash over in Japan pre-Melee.

edited 4th Nov '15 2:20:27 AM by KSoniK

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82525: Nov 4th 2015 at 4:41:23 AM

Samus not having the Ice and Wave/Plasma beams as alternates is insulting.


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