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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#82476: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:21:31 AM

So there's an online thing that allows you to easily make a match-up chart for your character, like so.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#82477: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:26:58 AM

The matchup chart of Pikachu when I'm playing him

edited 3rd Nov '15 5:27:22 AM by EpicBleye

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#82478: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:31:08 AM

I can't tell if you just didn't realize the first number represents the character in the box or if you're just confident.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#82479: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:32:39 AM

not "just" confident bucko

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#82480: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:44:01 AM

I like how some of them are just '???' Without any idea of the win/loss ratio tongue

EDIT: The one with Pikachu's broken, everything has a 1/99 ratio, including against itself, which should be impossible.

edited 3rd Nov '15 5:46:01 AM by Numbuh1234

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#82481: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:48:21 AM

nah that's how it's supposed to be

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#82482: Nov 3rd 2015 at 6:08:41 AM

Some characters are just too rare for me to have a solid opinion about

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#82483: Nov 3rd 2015 at 6:11:59 AM

It's been a while since I've played the game without friends, so I can't really say anything about the matchups.

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
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#82484: Nov 3rd 2015 at 7:02:42 AM

Huh...I remember Raziek and Dath agreeing Robin vs Greninja is 55-45 in Robin's favor. Although, I don't know if either of them have that much experience with Greninja.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#82485: Nov 3rd 2015 at 7:08:17 AM

Raziek has very little experience with Greninja, I know of the discussion you're talking about. Dunno about Dath though I remember him saying stuff like "just jab" which is really oversimplifying things.

Greninja also gets more benefits from the shieldstun increase since now he can attack Robin freely and since Greninja's shield was already bad, Robin isn't really doing anything that he couldn't do before.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82486: Nov 3rd 2015 at 7:48:37 AM

Sounds like main bias in both directions.

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#82487: Nov 3rd 2015 at 8:02:33 AM

I mean, I'm not gonna deny that I'm biased, but there's not much to go from considering there's no Greninja vs Robin matches played at top level.

And the best Greninja players we have live in Japan and the Netherlands so it's also very unlikely to happen.

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#82488: Nov 3rd 2015 at 8:03:26 AM

Clearly that means you need to set the precedent!

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#82489: Nov 3rd 2015 at 8:04:06 AM

What is it about this game that makes me so damn angry?! I mean, like...

"You monster... Our way of life, the millions of dollars in damage... All those innocent people! How could you do this?!"

"Because a Sheik teabagged me."

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
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#82490: Nov 3rd 2015 at 8:05:41 AM

Yup. Best Greninja players in Japan and Japan just thinks Robin is a bad character.

Although, what notable Greninja players are in the Netherlands?

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#82491: Nov 3rd 2015 at 8:07:07 AM

[up][up]Like I said, I have more fun when I'm not using my mains because doing that leads into scrub territory on my end. Maybe that'd help you too?tongue

At the very least you could play as Zelda/Samus and point. Point and laugh at how terrible they are.

edited 3rd Nov '15 8:07:27 AM by NesClassic

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82493: Nov 3rd 2015 at 9:50:24 AM

Japan seems to hate all the FE characters for some reason.

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#82494: Nov 3rd 2015 at 9:54:34 AM

Which is weird because they're the ones with all the games.

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#82495: Nov 3rd 2015 at 10:13:00 AM

That doesn't really mean they're going to be good though/are good with using them.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#82496: Nov 3rd 2015 at 1:26:52 PM

Plus, Marth and Roy were going to be JP exclusive in Melee until American test audiences loved them.

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#82497: Nov 3rd 2015 at 2:20:55 PM

And it's not like Marth and Roy were really popular among the FE fandom

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#82498: Nov 3rd 2015 at 2:24:03 PM

Keep in mind that there's no top level player of any of the FE characters in Japan. Hard to really think of a character as good if nobody wants to play them.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#82499: Nov 3rd 2015 at 2:36:29 PM

Chicken and egg, methinks. And while Roy isn't especially popular among FE players on basis of sucking ass as a unit and being blander than soaked white bread, Marth has some recognition as the de facto mascot of the franchise.

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#82500: Nov 3rd 2015 at 2:42:13 PM

[up][up]I remember Nairo saying when he went to Japan for a tournament, he surprised Japanese players with his Robin and Lucina. I think it was in friendly matches and not actually in the tournament though.


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