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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82401: Nov 2nd 2015 at 8:14:36 AM

[up][up][up] Slash rather than stab.

Also...

edited 2nd Nov '15 8:15:05 AM by Eriorguez

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#82402: Nov 2nd 2015 at 8:38:11 AM

[up] Hmmm... Not sure how "Smash like" that feels. But serious question: if Sakurai were to go "Hey, that version of Ridly actually works" and basically copy Project M's version. Wouldn't that cause potential legal issues?

edited 2nd Nov '15 8:49:14 AM by BlitzTrain

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82403: Nov 2nd 2015 at 8:47:51 AM

I don't think so; if anything, the modders would feel delighted.

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drunk bunny
#82404: Nov 2nd 2015 at 9:05:08 AM

Even there he definitely still looks too big imo

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82405: Nov 2nd 2015 at 9:20:34 AM

Well, I disagree with your opinion, and it seems we will never reach a consensus.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#82406: Nov 2nd 2015 at 9:40:07 AM

The modders would probably be thrilled, yeah. Doesn't mean that Nintendo's legal team wouldn't have cause to say "Can't do that, too risky" if there is potential for someone to take legal action over it... But copyright laws confuse me, especially where fan-work is involved, so I don't know if that could be a thing or not.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#82407: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:00:29 AM

IIRC, Nintendo recognizes that Project M exists, but doesn't comment on it. It's also why Project M isn't in as many tournaments since if they get Nintendo sponsorship for Melee and Smash 4, they can't have Project M.

HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#82408: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:07:28 AM

The Ridley discussion? Never heard this before.

End of the day, Sakurai doesn't want Ridley playable, and I can see why. Ridley is a very boss-like entity and removing too much from him basically makes him a different character. If Ganondorf never obtained the "dorf" part of his name and was always a giant pig creature, I imagine he'd get the same treatment. Bowser is super cartoony and even in his own games is more comical than intimidating. And Mewtwo is, well, he's realistically just a Pokemon.

I think Ridley has a fun position as a stage boss. It suits him.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#82409: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:12:43 AM

I would LOVE playable Ridley, but I won't complain if he doesn't get in, which he likely won't at this point.

And since everyone was too busy arguing yesterday to see my post, I'll say this again;

We're officially getting a Nintendo Direct before 2015 ends.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#82410: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:16:30 AM

I just wish Ridley-boss wasn't so pattern based like a Kirby boss. Part of the "fun" with Ridley is how erratic and jerky his movements are.

And [up] yeeeeeeeeeee~
I'm not sure if they'll have a trailer to show off for Smash by then, but we'll see.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#82411: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:17:11 AM

That's kinda old news anyway.

[up][up][up]Just want to point out that two of those three other characters you mentioned are also functionally entirely different from their canon appearances.

edited 2nd Nov '15 10:18:51 AM by Demonfly

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82412: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:18:18 AM

Sakurai doesn't want playable Ridley, but also thinks Wario is a fart based character, and pretends the Kirby games he didn't work at didn't exist. So yeah, he has somewhat odd criteria.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#82413: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:26:24 AM

To be fair, Wario only farts in one attack and a victory animation.tongue

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Bainsworth Since: Aug, 2015
#82414: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:31:24 AM

[up][up] Well if we're talking about Japan's portrayal of Wario, he's not entirely off base.

edited 2nd Nov '15 10:31:34 AM by Bainsworth

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#82415: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:48:29 AM

As much as I hate Metroid, even I think that making Ridley a stage boss, a hazard so intrusive and distracting that even most casual players hate it, was just plain a dick move towards his fans.

edited 2nd Nov '15 10:48:43 AM by BaffleBlend

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82416: Nov 2nd 2015 at 10:59:12 AM

You hate Zelda and Metroid? Mmm, not sure if I can understand your tastes.

And Sakurai thinks he did a good job, because party game and chaos and the like...

edited 2nd Nov '15 10:59:59 AM by Eriorguez

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#82417: Nov 2nd 2015 at 11:15:37 AM

I like Ridley as a stage hazard myself. I play on Pyrosphere pretty often because of it.

BlitzTrain Since: Apr, 2014
#82418: Nov 2nd 2015 at 11:16:17 AM

I don't have Wii-U yet, so I haven't seen Stage!Ridly in action. but is he really that hated? How hated is he compared to 3DS Yellow Devil? Because I actually like it when Yellow Devil shows up when I play For Fun.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#82419: Nov 2nd 2015 at 11:23:21 AM

I prefer Ridley to Yellow Devil. You beat Ridley enough and he fights on your side. You beat Yellow Devil enough and I think he just blows up and hurts everybody else.

But he's still a lot harder to dodge.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#82420: Nov 2nd 2015 at 11:26:02 AM

The real stage boss MVP is Metal Face though.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#82421: Nov 2nd 2015 at 11:30:38 AM

Yellow Devil is annoying and hard to dodge, but he's weak so he won't be K Oing you. Ridley's attacks aren't nearly as in-the-way, but he hits like a truck and woe to you if another player teams up with him first.

And of course, Metal Face is easily ignored and simple enough to beat. But he brings some of the greatest moments in the game with him via his dialogue.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#82422: Nov 2nd 2015 at 11:31:50 AM

You can't go wrong with a sadistic British robot.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#82423: Nov 2nd 2015 at 11:33:46 AM

I thought he was Australian.

Or is that Shulk...?

Or fantasy Australian.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#82424: Nov 2nd 2015 at 11:34:52 AM

Everyone in Xenoblade sounds English, but there are many differing accents present.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82425: Nov 2nd 2015 at 12:04:33 PM

Metal Face was cockney as fuck IIRC.


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