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#82376: Nov 2nd 2015 at 4:42:46 AM

So why are there a lot of plain alternately colored Toon Links, and then a single one with demonic red eyes?

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#82377: Nov 2nd 2015 at 4:45:24 AM

Dark Link with red eyes has always been something...Dark Toon however has not.

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#82378: Nov 2nd 2015 at 4:52:11 AM

My only complaint with alts is the severe lack of Dry Bowser and no shiny alts for Charizard, Mewtwo, and Lucario. Although Shadow Mewtwo alt kinda makes up for that.

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#82379: Nov 2nd 2015 at 5:07:27 AM

[up]that can be chalked up to the pokemon company... again.

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#82380: Nov 2nd 2015 at 5:13:44 AM

[up][up] Charizard's purple alt is actually a reference to its Gen II shiny coloration...it's better than nothing, if you ask me.

[up] Actually, I do believe Smash is exempt from TPC's strictness with its characters. They're just not usually allowed in other games.

edited 2nd Nov '15 5:14:24 AM by BurntMario

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#82381: Nov 2nd 2015 at 5:20:22 AM

Nope. TPC created issues with amiibos, and they're the reason why we don't have shiny colorations in Smash (Because TPC has copywrite on shiny colors as well). It's restricted to Pikachu and Jiggs because their shiny colors were in past smash games. Greninja is technically not shiny because of orange tongue.

edited 2nd Nov '15 5:21:44 AM by EpicBleye

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#82382: Nov 2nd 2015 at 5:33:26 AM

Project M had really cool ideas for alternate costumes for each character, like Armored Mewtwo and Dry Bowser.

So, if other electric type rodents were Pikachu's other color costumes, which would they be? Raichu, Pichu, Pachirisu, Dedenne, Emolga, Plusle & Minun? Or some of those and their shinies?

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#82383: Nov 2nd 2015 at 5:33:46 AM

[up][up]And the normal-colored underbelly for Greninja. (And Jigglypuff doesn't even have its shiny colors this time around. It did in Brawl, but not here.)

I think it says something that for how lenient TPC is with Pokémon stuff in Smash in general, there's still issues that frequently crop up because of their policies.
Detour question, is anyone else curious what all the Pokémon were that were on the list Sakurai was given? Apparently he was supposed to select from a group of them which one should be playable, and almost instantly went with Greninja.

[up]Normal Pikachu, Raichu colors, Emolga colors, Pachirisu colors, Plusle colors, Minun colors, Electrike colors, and Shinx colors.

edited 2nd Nov '15 5:35:46 AM by NesClassic

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#82384: Nov 2nd 2015 at 5:35:27 AM

Mayhaps some of the Pokemon that appear in the background of Kalos Pokemon League?

But yeah I'm very curious.

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#82385: Nov 2nd 2015 at 6:27:02 AM

Insane ammount of shrinking you said?

I beg to disagree. Ridley's best fights in Metroid games are those where he isn't gargantuan anyway, and size is not a main component of the character when compared with other Metroid bosses.

But then again, memetic thinking is a thing.

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#82386: Nov 2nd 2015 at 6:55:43 AM

The picture does nothing for the argument considering the fact that bowser's fully stretched out and ridley is hunched over with his arms back and tail curled up.

Even in that picture, which is your argument on why he isn't too big, he's too big.

edited 2nd Nov '15 7:00:11 AM by EpicBleye

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82387: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:01:18 AM

Donkey Kong is also in that position. If fully stretched out, he'd be "larger" than Bowser. Also, that is a canon posture for Ridley, curled up and extending when attacking.

Have you ever seen a bird skeleton? Femur held horizontally, long neck in a S-shape, wings folded. Why would a birdlike creature have to adopt a humanlike posture?

edited 2nd Nov '15 7:05:05 AM by Eriorguez

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#82388: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:04:56 AM

There's also the fact that the picture there has Samus at the same size as Mario and Luigi.

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#82389: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:05:21 AM

I think I might've figured it out.

Ridley's size isn't the issues- He can be scaled down- But rather, balance is. He hits hard, and he hits fast, and take either away and it stops feeling like Ridley.

edited 2nd Nov '15 7:06:00 AM by ultimatepheer

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82390: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:06:04 AM

Luigi is not that much smaller than Samus in Sm4sh.

[up] Like Mewtwo you say? Lightweight large target is a very effective negative trait in Smash...

edited 2nd Nov '15 7:07:23 AM by Eriorguez

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#82391: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:06:45 AM

Maybe they could give him laughable defenses?

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#82392: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:15:37 AM

You know, if he's only small enough to fit when crouched, then why not make that part of his style?

Just have this cramped up beast, but most attacks it stretches a limb out for a surprisingly long-ranged attack.

Balance for that could include the lack of disointed hitboxes during these attacks, so if you predict what attack he's gonna do you can punish from a distance.

As for speed vs power, there's no reason they can't be split among Ridley's moves, some of them being quick strikes that aren't terribly strong, and some slow moves that aren't terribly fast. That or make the claws/tail tip/other thing be a sweetspot.

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#82393: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:34:12 AM

No Such Thing As Too Deep with Falco

Damn, this really makes me want to go back to playing with Falco.

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#82394: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:36:37 AM

Size matters not in Smash.

Kirby's only 8 inches tall in his series. Sonic's supposed to be 3 feet, while Mario is 5 feet, yet both Sonic and Mario are the same height in Smash.

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#82395: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:46:52 AM

Sonic's supposed to be three feet tall?
...then what the hell is with literally any human being in the Sonic universe?

...anyways, I think size only matters relative to other elements from the same universe as a given character. Hence why Kirby and co. don't look out of place, and Olimar's back to actual size when he's throwing down in the Garden of Hope.

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#82396: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:56:23 AM

Sonic's shorter than most adult humans, mang.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82397: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:58:14 AM

Horizontal spine and horizontal femur is a couched position for a human, but it is a standard position for other bipedal creatures. Ridley never stands in a humanlike posture, because he stands like a bird with ape arms. Birds look like couching when in a standard position, but that's because we have trouble processing our posture is a quite aberrant one as far as vertebrates go (hence our chronic backaches and the tendency to break our hips).

And, again, 2D Ridley with its 3D proportions only needs a slight size ajustment to not feel gigantic. Otherwise, size is only an issue if fully extended, but you don't say a bearded vulture is larger than a human, don't you?

As for Sonic, he usually is hip height next to humans; although the deformed humans from Unleashed on are shorter than actual people.

edited 2nd Nov '15 7:59:40 AM by Eriorguez

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#82398: Nov 2nd 2015 at 8:00:48 AM

I'm just trying to envision what Ridley's back air looks like and I can only think of a tail that stretches to half the length of Final Destination.

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#82399: Nov 2nd 2015 at 8:04:23 AM

Here's a tangentially related question; which character is currently the tallest in Smash?

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#82400: Nov 2nd 2015 at 8:05:06 AM

Greninja Moments

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No Such Thing As Too Deep with Falco

Guess Falco really does prefer the air, my off-stage game needs a lot of work.

edited 2nd Nov '15 8:05:28 AM by BlitzTrain


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